[THIN] Re: RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memorycontext.

  • From: "Sergio Blum" <sergio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:16:00 -0300

There's a place where I can download Softriticy Softwares for a try?
There ins't a place on the www.softriticy.com

Tanks for any help!

______________________________________ 
Sergio Adriano Blum - www.sisnema.com.br
MCP - MCSA - MCSE - CCA - CCEA

Microsoft Certify System Engineer
Citrix Certify Enterprise Administrator
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>>> tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/22 2:40 pm >>>

With the 2.0.5 version of Softricity, I believe you can apply a setting
to
the app (via the OSD) that causes a second copy of the app to run in
either
a different virtual space or share the original as desired.  This
*probably*
would allow the app to work under TS/Citrix.  But as Ron indicated,
until
you jump with both feet into SoftGrid you really won't know for sure. 
I
certainly have seen some screwy things apps can do!

tim
Timothy R. Mangan
Founder TMurgent Technologies
tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
www.tmurgent.com 
+1 781-492-0403
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Ron Oglesby
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memory
context.



Well if that is really the setup with the app it is written pretty
poorly. BUT softricity may fix it.  My concern is that launching the
same app within softricity two times may for the same user may run it
in
the same virtual runtime environment. SO it may not fix it off the bat
BUT if the same app was sequenced twice or the app SFT (software pckge
for softricity) was copied and the second session was launched from
that
you would be fine since that would be two sessions.=20

The problem here may reside with the app itself. Softricity does not
fix
ALL problems just a lot of them. Like if an app writes to the global
heap, it wont fix that, it is still a bad app, get it?  Anyway its
worth
giving a shot if you must absolutely have two sessions of this app.

Does the vendor have anything to say about this situation? Because if
it
does what you are saying it probably does it from workstations also.



Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
=20
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry [mailto:thierry.tissot@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memory
context.


Sorry but your diagnostic is not good the problem comme from the
tuxedo
session id wich resides on share memory in the user context. When you
connect a second application in the same user context, this appli put
another tuxedo session id in the same share memory and the first
session
loose her childs. That the reason why I must run each application in
an
isolate memory space.

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Objet : [THIN] Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context.



I like softricity software but an not sure the memory (or sharing it)
is
really the problem here.=3D3D20

I am not saying that its not but it really sounds like the application
=
=3D
is
seeing the original connection (an possibly open app files) and
re-using
them itself. (poor application). It also sounds to me like this app is
looking at its user names and info from a central location (like
reading
=3D
an
INI and Config files or reg entries) from C:\programfiles etc, and
HKLM
instead of the users home dir and HKCU>

If that is the case Softricity would straighten that out by running it
=
=3D
in
the Virtual runtime environment that isolates it. But I would not
spend
=3D
the
money for softricity for a SINGLE application unless this is the major
=
=3D
money
maker at a company and "it just has to work".

If I could use it for other apps (and probably would) I would spend
the
money then.


Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
=3D3D20
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
=3D3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Stalhood [mailto:cstalhood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 7:03 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context.


Softricity (http://www.softricity.com) allows each instance of an
application to be executed in its own virtual environment thus =3D3D3D
eliminating most contention issues that prevent some applications from
working concurrently on a Citrix server.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Behalf Of Thierry
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 4:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Starting application in an isolate memory context.

    Hello,
=3D3D3D20
        Here is my problem :
=3D3D3D20
            I have an application published on Metaframe XP (Windows
=3D
=3D3D3D
2000 SP3). This application use Tuxedo 6.5 to connect to an
application
=3D
=3D3D3D
engine.=3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
            If I start this application one time from the client
=3D3D3D
everything works fine, but if I start it two times the data of second
session =3D3D3D appear in the first session instead of good ones. The
=
=3D
solution
to solve this =3D3D3D problem is to make a connection from the client
=
out
=3D
of the
farm and param this connection with another user login. In this case
it
works but we don't =3D3D =3D3D3D find this solution good. Is there any
=
way =3D
to launch
a citrix application in =3D3D =3D3D3D an isolate memory and =
environnement =3D
context so
that global variables and =3D3D =3D3D3D share memory of first session
=
won't
=3D
be
erased by the second one ? =3D3D3D20 Thanks Thierry.

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