[THIN] Re: PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
- From: "Jason Patten" <JasonP@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:54:00 -0500
I have noticed that when a person has the PCL 6 drivers locally installed and
is on a windows XP machine that printing using a LaserJet 4 driver on the
server side is extremely slow. On the order of one page or less per minute
Jason
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670,616,629 mph. Its not just a good idea, its the law.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:19 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
This is a good question... PC5 vs. PCL6?
As we already see from this thread PCL5 it is popular to say stay with
PCL5 but why?
What problems do you guys "really" see with PCL6 drivers? I would like to know.
Some apps might actually take advantage of the PCL5 form overlay capability
which is different in PCL XL (PCL6). So for this reason,
PCL5 might be required and if not present then could cause an issue.
Other than this issue, excluding perhaps the maturity of the driver code itself
(PCL6 being somewhat newer), I have not seen any specific reason to recommend
PCL5 drivers versus PCL6.
The PCL XL (PCL6) format is substantially altered from prior PCL generations.
It represents an imaging model that is more consistent with GDI's view of the
world that that of its PCL predecessors. For devices that support it, PCL6
drivers are the only ones that HP is still investing resource in developing.
PCL5 drivers are basically maintenance only for most laser printers these days.
I talked to a friend who 110% understands the Citrix print subsystem that said,
"I personally favor PCL6 drivers for the printers I use and have few
problems...no more no less than PCL 5. PCL print jobs in general are somewhat
leaner than PCL5 as well although the differences in job size are minor. So I'm
not sure exactly where this recommendation is coming from."
In looking over HP's site and in talking to people about this "best practice" I
never get a, "well, I have this problem and I see it on all
PCL6 drivers I use" or "the reason is because of..."
This being said, I would like to know more about why people call this a best
practice and what happens in your environment when you use a PCL 6 driver.
From here I will try to dig deeper into the problem.
But, I can't argue with people thinking or knowing that when they use
PCL5 only they have less issues... If that is what you see then that is what
you see.
Please let me know what you really see when using PCL 6 drivers.
DB
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:54 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
Difference:
PCL5e = Good!
PCL6 = Bad!
:)
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Torben Claus
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:30 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
mmh - ok...i'll use PCL5e...
But what is the difference between PCL5e and PCL6?
Any links?
Greetings.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:35:09 -0600, Mike Semon <msemon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'll second that. We had more problems with PCL6 drivers. PCL5e
> drivers are much more stable.
>
> -Mike
>
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Chris Lynch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:09 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
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> I can tell you that we have been experiencing some major issues with
> the PCL6 drivers. Both on our MF servers (Windows 2000 with SP3) and
> on our F&P Clusters (Windows Server 2003).
>
> I would stay away from PCL6 drivers. Either stick with PCL5e, or
> PostScript drivers.
>
> Chris
>
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> On Behalf Of Brian Hall
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:46 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] PCL5e or PCL6 printer drivers
>
> I'm in the process of setting up a new Citrix XP PS FR3 farm
> running on W2K3 servers. I've been using PCL6 drivers on my Citrix XP
> FR2 server successfully with all apps including a financial app which
> recommends PCL5e drivers. However, during peak usage times I've
> observed frequent high cpu utilization from the spool.exe process.
> Since I have the opportunity to do everything from scratch, I'm
> investigating all options. From stability and performance
> perspective, are there any arguments for standardizing on PCL5e
> drivers when available and requiring users to match the driver? How
> well does the new Citrix universal printer driver work? Has anyone
> come across any best practice documentation for managing printer
> drivers on the latest version of Citrix on W2K3?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Hall
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