[THIN] Re: Opinion - homogenous farms or silo'ed
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:58:29 -0700
No, we have not tested/validated these new 4.0 features for production yet.
On our our large/critical projects, we are looking at about 6 months out for
4.0 upgrades. In the next few weeks we should have some feedback about it on
smaller new installs and upgrades, will be happy to share what we learn.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ron Jameson
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion - homogenous farms or silo'ed
Steve - have you tested the PS4.0 and the isolation feature? We just
ordered 4.0 for this client and will be rebuilding the farm in the summer.
The client likes the isolation of having the critical apps on the farm and
the login server desktop doing the rest of the other programs (with a fourth
server to handle the junk historical apps).
Also, currently we have the citrix license server as the first in the farm
and during the rebuild I was contemplating putting it on either the DC that
does the terminal server licensing or putting it on a virtual server on the
backup/media server. Any experience with running it under a Virtual?
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:59 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion - homogenous farms or silo'ed
The application isolation and performance management features of 4.0 may
very well change this landscape considerably. If these features prove out
well, then the need to silo should be dramatically reduced. So, the answer
may vary depending on whether or not you plan to use 4.0
I know with 3.0 that we have had very good experience NOT siloing when using
Softricity's SoftGrid product. If application isolation works as advertised
it will allow a similar benefit. Add to the CPU process controls and memory
optimization and me may just reach the holy grail of "Any Application from
Any Device over and Any Connection" plus "Running on Any Server" :)
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ron Jameson
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 1:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Opinion - homogenous farms or silo'ed
I have a question in the midst of a clients restructuring of terminal
services. Currently, a 2 server citrix farm was added 3 months ago that
silo'ed the companies critical applications (8 of them) in order to handle
the load of the users (PS3.0 advanced). Users logged into a plain MS
Terminal server and accessed the citrix published apps thru the terminal
server. Why you ask? We could not change the terminal server design until
a slower time - plus, the terminal server houses an additional 20 programs
that are not on the citrix farm. So in the end, users run in there TS
desktop session and also run the citrix published apps.
We have an opening of time to redo this because we had a problem with the
speed of the published apps thru the terminal server on a WAN side (could be
the ICA to RDP - still would like to figure out if this is a
culprit) even though on the LAN side it was fine. So, in most opinions
- is it better to create a farm of homogenous servers or in this case, keep
a login Citrix server to handle the 20+ programs and silo the critical apps
to the farm using published apps?
Opinions? Comments?
Thanks in advance..
Ron Jameson @ Hamlin Technologies
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