[THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p rogram

  • From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:02:28 -0000

Are you taking a snapshot ( before and after) or are you manually creating
an msi from scratch ?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Parr" <sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
rogram


> I notice that the msi I have created and installed on a test Citrix box
> creates a ton of registry entries with all other things being equal is
> probably a good thing.. am wondering if there were any key areas to watch
> out for to enhance how things run on Citrix...registry entries look good
but
> may not be actually all be making much of a diff as well..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Parr [mailto:sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:52 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
> No steps just update version of MDAC if not high enough..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
> What steps do you have to do on a brand new o/s install with the
application
> ?
>
> Register DLLs ? Copy Ini files ? add registry entries ? Create ODBC
> connections ?
> You can do all of that with an msi file quite easily.
>
> I was in the same boat as you with one of our vendors installation
routines.
> The installation routine was so awful on workstations the departments were
> crying out for Citrix delivery to cut down on the amount of installs
> required.
> The vendor did have notes for Citrix/TS installs and these were even worse
> with a service required and the configuration had to be done using the
> service account ...urgh.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Parr" <sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:27 PM
> Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> rogram
>
>
> >
> > I am pretty much on my own with this one and was wondering what things
to
> > look for in creating an install package so that life will be better
> running
> > this app without an install program on Citrix. The app without a face
> right
> > now. :)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Parr [mailto:sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:21 PM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install p
> > rogram
> >
> > Mike the app is fairly respectable initself and there is a very large
> > codebase already there. The SQL backend is new for them - they have
ported
> > from pervasive-SQL backend engine(not real SQL as we know it - anytime a
> > drive has to be mapped to backend I call that more like file sharing)
> > Anyways they are stubborn and feel that because their app has run for
> years
> > without an install program why would they need one now. So I am trying
to
> > bridge this attitude gap. They don't know or care about the further
> > complications of running something in multiuser mode such as Citrix or
TS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: msemon@xxxxxxx [mailto:msemon@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:03 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install
> program
> >
> > Something doesn't sound right. Could have a small VB app as front end to
> > SQL.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Steve Parr sparr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:04:13 -0500
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] One of the Apps running on Citrix has no install program
> >
> >
> > The vendor is lazy and thinks it is not required. They give our Apps
group
> > the program files and they have been copying to workstations and just
> > running that way. Before letting this run on Citrix would like to take a
> > crack at creating an install for this
> > for the purpose of being able to install in change user /install mode so
> > things get a proper chance to be set up in the mutiuser environment that
> > Citrix\TS is. What things should I look for to know that the install
> program
> > will do what it ideally should for TS\Citrix? I have used an installer
> > program put out by Caphypon called Advanced Installer. Have run this and
> > created an .msi package that comes out to about 600 mbs - the program
> files
> > prior to being compressed into CAB files is at 1.2 Gbs. Seems to work
but
> > not tested under load yet. According to the vendor there are up to 400
> > .exe's and many other supporting files and is reason program files so
> large
> > in size. This amazes me a bit as the architecture on the back end is MS
> SQL
> > so I do not see the need to be so fat on the client but maybe I just
have
> > not been around long enough. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > Steve Parr
> > Metroland Printing, Publishing and Distributing Ltd.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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