OK, with my pedantic hat on, the certification is only given "Unlike other IT certifications, this credential was built and is granted by industry architects, as candidates must pass a rigorous review board with previously certified architects." So how did the FIRST architect get certified? :-) And to enter the "Four Yorkshiremen" competition Lookshury! My first system was a Microbee (Australian) Z80 with 32K RAM and a cassette tape..that was about 1983 I think..It had BASIC, but I used it to teach myself Assembler programming The first system I actually worked on with a Hard Drive had a 5Meg Disk Platter that was nearly 2 foot across, and used tapes for long term storage. That was in about 1986. And my mum and dad used to dance on our graves and sing Hallelujah! But tell that to the kids of today and they won't believe you _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder Sent: Wednesday, 21 June 2006 1:07 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: Microsoft Certified Architect Program No doubt Brian and Douglas will be the first two! :) http://www.microsoft.com/architecture/default.aspx?pid=share.certification