Just released new Citrix receiver for iPad/iPhone. You can now access apps via web interface using Citrix receiver without cag or ag in front of it. Not very secure but certainly very handy. -- Warren Simondson Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au On Fri, Dec 17th, 2010 at 7:26 PM, James Scanlon <James.Scanlon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > We have troubleshooted this to APPSENSE. When all three products (AM, EM > And PM are enabled) the server doubles users logons from 14s to around > 30, and progressivly gets worse until the server completely crashes > around 45 users. > Stopping any of the three services of appsense relieves the issue. > Stopping appsense completely sees the server behave as we would expect > sub 15second logons, for over 100 users, instant launching of programs. > Further investigation continues and will update the list when we have > more info... > Thanks to all for your input. > > J > > ________________________________ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of James Scanlon > Sent: 14 December 2010 08:08 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > > The operating system is barely doing anything during this time from a > perfmon point of view... the stats all slowly increase as expected but > its like hitting a glass ceiling at present with no way of > capturing..... > > > at 40 users (and things stable-ish) > > 10GB of ram used > 5%-20% CPU at the most > Everything mostly idle. > No disk queues - and have never gone above 1 (according to perfmon) > > Apparently the array controllers are set at 75% write and 25% read - if > that makes any difference (would have thought only if the queues were > high....???) > > J > > ________________________________ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Joe Shonk > Sent: 13 December 2010 17:50 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > > > What does you disk i/o look like with 45-50 users? > > > > Joe > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of James Scanlon > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:29 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > > > the xenapp servers are all physical machines. no xenserver involved. > > The servers themselves have 146GB Mirrored SAS > > Network is dual 1GB Physical NICS teamed with HP software > > The ZDC is a virtual on vmware........? > > Its 4 Physical servers all having exactly the same issues..... :( > > > > Very much appreciate any further input!!! > > Thank you for your reply :) > > > > James > > > > ________________________________ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Joe Shonk > Sent: 13 December 2010 17:22 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > Hello, > > > > What version of XenServer are you running and how many VMs? Did you > select the Optimize for XenApp under each VM? What does you disk > subsystem and network look like? > > > > Joe > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of James Scanlon > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 2:54 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > > > Everyone, > > > > After the applicaiton of all the below listed hotfixes and a number of > other MS hotfixes related to terminal services > > we are still in a position of grief with these servers. > > > > We are no longer experiencing a slow down or crash over time more what > we would call a significant slow down for the amount of users vs > hardware on the servers. > > > > > > DL380 G6, 36GB of Physical Ram (34 available to windows) > > Dual Intel Xeon 2.8, 16 Cores, x5560 > > Windows 2008 SP2 > > > > Problem > > We are seeing server instability around 50 users, 45 seems to be the > limit. > > With servers of such huge specs does any list legend have any further > ideas what we could be doing wrong? > > > > > > Any suggesitons would be very much appreciated!!!!! > > Thank s in advance for any assistance or even reading this > > > > Cheers > > James > > > > OTHER INFO > > > > Could it be BIOS settings? > > > > Intel hyperthreading options - enabled > intel Virtualisation technology - enabled > no execute memory protection (dep) - on > Intel vt-d - enabled > Intel turbo boost technology - enabled > processor core disable - no > > > > Performance Stats > > #users > > logon time(seconds) > > > > > > 20 > > 25 > > > > 40 > > 78 > > > > 48 > > Error: server busy processing another logon. > > > 50 > > 56 > > 5s to launch word(1st time) - 2s 2nd time > > > 60 > > 75 > > 7.5s to launch word (1st time) - 4.3 2nd time > > > 70 > > 255 > > 11s to launch word (1st time) - 5s 2nd time > > Lost graphics > > RDP logon = 75s. > > > All users logged off. 1st user logon = back to 25s > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of James Scanlon > Sent: 18 November 2010 13:32 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > Right - further info > > > > Quite a few of the below are not applied - have an action task to review > all and install requried and test after each one... thanks again Carl > > > > looking into ctx hotfixes but seems we have x64_FR3_Enabled applied to > all... (is there something similar for windows 2003 32bit server in the > same farm?) > > > > thanks again everyone > > > > James > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Carl Stalhood > Sent: 17 November 2010 19:07 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: XenServer Slowdown > > There are a ton of hotfixes for Windows 2008 64-bit post SP2. Here's my > collection. All of these are related to TS in some way. Some of them > directly fix performance problems. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983533 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2028453 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2028484 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2059743 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2065362 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2213578 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2231728 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2251177 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2261826 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2272153 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2281477 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2300745 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2414013 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2444213 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949538 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955365 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956438 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958089 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958596 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/960568 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967113 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967933 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968074 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968358 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968930 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968967 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968995 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969290 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969837 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969851 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969940 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969972 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970603 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970689 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970840 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970910 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970911 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970964 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971253 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971271 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971338 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971347 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971370 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971427 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971438 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971589 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972495 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972596 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972600 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972904 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973062 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973521 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973554 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973744 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974103 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974195 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974266 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974825 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975848 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976036 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976038 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976110 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976520 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976538 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976674 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977225 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977263 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977269 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977389 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977401 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977541 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977585 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977611 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977675 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977686 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978042 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978829 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978927 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979241 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979425 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979548 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979557 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980248 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980356 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980380 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980568 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980663 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980945 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981062 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981369 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981462 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981500 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981704 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981891 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981964 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982051 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982303 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982334 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982416 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982606 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982931 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983237 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983385 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983458 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983533 > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, James Scanlon > <James.Scanlon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > We are having speed issues with out XenServers > > Brand New builds > > Deployed with Altiris > > Xenserver 5.0 > > Windows 2008 Standard 64bit > > > > ______________________________________ > > > > C. 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