This is actually not a new problem. Outlook 2000 has the problem with that first-run value as well. The simplest problem it causes is Outlook takes longer to start if you get a different server on your next logon. The fix you mention has worked for me except that I just make the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Setup\First-Run value the same on all the terminal servers. If you do this, you don't have to worry about changing each user. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Jarrett-Norton [mailto:bjarrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:14 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] MetaFrame Outlook Reminders OK here it is from the Citrix Support Forum: Nigel S Davison on 07/22 at 09:24 AM MetaFrame Outlook Reminder Outlook Reminder OK...here goes...this one SEEMS to work and I am testing further at the moment: The problem is caused by a bug of Outlook 2002, which appears only under the following conditions: a) Use of more then one Terminal Servers b) Use of Roaming Profiles c) The Users don't log on to the same TS every time Outlook 2002 checks the following Registry Key at outlook startup: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Setup\First-Run When it checks this, it checks to see if outlook has been run before on the specific machine, by comparing this key to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Setup\First-Run if the values are not identical, Outlook will execute a First-run again NOW...HERE IS THE CRUNCH...WHEN AN APP IS INSTALLED IN CHANGE USER MODE, THE VALUE OF hklm WILL NEVER BE SAVED...THEREFORE, THESE KEYS WILL DIFFER. During this First-Run, the Reminder Table in the Mailbox will be rebuilt. and here is the Problem. Outlook tries to get access to a table which is not available yet. Still, the table will be rebuilt correctly. The next time Outlook is be started, the reminders are displayed correctly. So if you - Start Outlook - terminate it - And restart it within the same TS-Session, the reminders should be displayed correctly here is my fix....I am using a kix script and have added the following 2 lines: $outlookset = Readvalue("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Setup" , "First-Run") writevalue ("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Setup" , "First-Run" , $outlookset , "REG_BINARY") this reads the line in HKLM and writes the same entry to HKCU. I HAVE REMINDERS. This is under test so please don't shout at me if it doesn't work...but...so far...so good Nigel Msg: #12 in digest From: "Brian Politis" <bpolitis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:45:25 -0400 I have reports of it occuring in NT4 and W2K (I am running NT4). Also with Exchange5.5 and Exchange2000. This includes Exchange5.5 on NT4 and W2K as well. Bruce, any help with that registry key would be great. That's the first concrete information I have heard on the issue. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Williams Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:51 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP I have had an open case with microsoft on this.....but they have not been able to figure out what it is.... Is this happening with any of you with a windows 2000 / mfXP FR1 setup or NT4 FR1 setup....I am trying to determine if NT4 and outlook xp don't mix....but have not been able to get a windows 2000 box up to test yet.... Thank You, Robert Williams Senior Network Administrator Raypak, Inc. rwilliams@xxxxxxxxxx Phone - 805-278-5363 -----Original Message----- From: Derek J. Lambert [mailto:dlambert@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:42 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP Ditto.. I'll put it in my logon script. -----Original Message----- From: mAt [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:42 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP Do you know what the reg key is Bruce ? regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Jarrett-Norton" <bjarrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: [THIN] Late Reminders in OutlookXP > > We have done some research here and found that the problem exists when you > login to TS with the ica v. rdp session. > If you use rdp it works fine but the ica does not work. Further > research from Microsoft states that the problem is a registry setting > that is not there initially, for each user on the Citrix server, but > is written when they log into Outlook. > The reason your fix works, is that the registry setting is in place when the > user logs in for the second time. We have been told by MS that they are > supposedly working with Citrix to resolve this issue. > > Hope this helps > > -Bruce Jarrett-Norton > Dart Energy Corporation > Network and Desktop Tech. > > > > > From: Michael <indy019@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP > > > We found the following workaround on our servers: > > User logs on > Open Outlook > Close Outlook > Open Outlook > Reminders work! > > Of course this only lasts for that session, and has to > be completed at every logon, but it keeps the loudest > users quiet for the time being. > > I hope this helps. > > Michael Saul > --- "Derek J. Lambert" <dlambert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Well looks like SP2 is available for download now, > > and I don't see this > > issue on the fixed list. > > > > From: Derek J. Lambert=3D20 > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Late Reminders in OutlookXP > > I sure hope SP2 fixes it. We are having the same > > problem here, and users > > are starting to get angry. > > > > From: Brian Politis > > Subject: [THIN] Late Reminders in OutlookXP > > > > > We are still having problems with Late Reminders in > > outlookXP. Has > > anyone solved this problem? Or know whether SP2 will > > help. We currently > > have Outlook configured to run with the > > /cleanreminders switch once a > > week (every Monday it launches from the login > > script). =3D3D20 > > =3D3D20 > > Interestingly, the first Monday we did this our > > Exchange Data Store > > service stopped after about 2 hours. It restarted > > fine, and we haven't > > had a problem since. Does anyone know what > > /cleanreminders does? The > > KB articles I've read all state it does something on > > the exchange server > > and should only be run occassionally. The don't say > > what it does or > > what "occassionally" means. 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