We have all sorts of problems in office apps if they aren't in our 2003 domain. Here are a couple script files for you. First create a script to pull out your users names from your profile directory. Of course all of this hedges on that all of your users have logged on at least once and have a profile. Otherwise it is useless. Lets call it getusers.cmd @Echo Off Dir /B F:\Profiles >F:\users.txt This assumes your profiles folder is on drive F: Edit to your drive and profiles dir. It outputs the users to a file called users.txt Next create a simple yes answer text file called Yes.txt just put the letter Y in the file and save it in your root directory where you saved the users.txt file. Finally here is your script to set permissions. Lets call it set_perms_users.cmd For /F %%1 in (F:\users.txt) do xcacls F:\Users\%%1 /T /C /G administrators:F %userdomain%\%%1:CO System:F <yes.txt This assumes that your users files are in F:\users change that to your users directory. It gives the user full priveleges on all their files and adds the administrators group so you can manage them. You can do the same for your profiles with a set_perms_profiles.cmd that just changes the directory to your profiles directory. For /F %%1 in (F:\users.txt) do xcacls F:\profiles\%%1 /T /C /G administrators:F %userdomain%\%%1:CO System:F <yes.txt Change the F:\ to your drive and profiles directory. Hope this helps. Jim Kenzig Evan Mann <emann@> wrote: I direct profiles and home folders to separate places, thus the only thing in a users home folder is the \windows folder and any personal documents they place there. With this being the case, is it necessary for the user to be the owner of their folder? I have it both ways and I have not had any problems. FYI, I will never redirect app data, desktop, or start menu into the home folder. I do have the profiles folders setup where the user is the owner, as everything I read said this is necessary. Jim Kenzig Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services Citrix Technology Professional Provision Networks VIP CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Blog: http://www.techblink.com Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com