Greg, My farm of 32 servers is entirely DL360 G3 and G4 boxes. Haven't lost a single one yet, nor have I experienced any hardware failures. I personally think the boxes rock and would not hesitate to build another farm using the same specs. I run dual procs, 4GB ram, and as many as 110 users per server, but it's a single application (Internet Explorer). DL380s are basically the same thing with increased storage capability. If you don't need the storage, there's not much impetus to run the 380s for Citrix servers, IMHO. rob 24 Hour Fitness ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:00 PM To: Thin Subject: [THIN] HP Servers i have always preferred IBM servers. My last job was an all IBM shop and I really liked the IBM gear and their support which i needed little of. My current job is an all HP shop. Personally, all it has done in convince me how much better IBM servers are. But I am not trying to open up that debate again. We're an HP shop and that won't be changing anytime soon. I am trying to put together some specs for some new citrix servers. We currently have DL380 G3 servers for Citrix. They seem a little overkill for Citrix. I would like something a little leaner. The DL360 G4 looks to fit the bill but I am told the DL360 has always been problematic and that they are still plagued with problems due to inefficient cooling. I am told the DL385 is the way to go for Citrix. Have any of you HP guys have any input on this? What HP servers are you currently using for Citrix. I am looking at a small three server extension to my current farm for about 100 users at most. Thanks! Greg