[THIN] Re: Ghost MPS 3.0?
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- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:39:31 -0500
Does the newsid.exe work on 2003?
Thanks,
Jobe
"Joe Shonk" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Before you create your image,
Remove from domain
Change computer name (ie ctx-image)
Set NIC to DHCP
No need to unplug the network cable
No need to Sysprep? Download newsid.exe from www.sysinternals.com to resid,
you can also change the computer name at the same time.
Joe
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I am applying the -FDSP switch and it comes up fine. I'm doing the
sysprep after it's imaged. So yes to your question it is from a system
that had a ghost image applied.
Here's my process (which isn't finalized).
Ghost the new server with the -FDSP switch.
Reboot and unplug the network cable.
Then I run sysprep and when it restarts I'm getting the gina errors. It
must be doing something with the drive letters.
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Jobe
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Jobe,
For clarification, at what point in "sysprep" are you getting the gina
errors?
Is this when running Sysprep from a system that just had a ghost image
applied to it?
If that's the case your issue is an issue of not loading ghost with the
correct context switches on the machine that got the image applied to it.
Ghost assumes that all drives on a machine will start with common
lettering (C:, D;, E:) . . and consequently, will auto "re-assign" the
partitions of machines getting imaged to C:\, D:\ etc . . This process
does not change anything in windows however, so windows will still believe
all drives are actually M:, N: when they arent' anymore . .. and you then
have a non-functional windows system.
To get around this, when loading up Ghost on the machine that's getting
the ghost image applied to it use:
Ghost.exe /fdsp
(file disk signature presearve)
This will stop ghost from auto-reassigning the drive letters and your
imaged systems should work fine.
HTH
J
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I agree I may change it before I get to far into it.
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Jobe
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I'm not. I think that makes things much easier for this type of thing.
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Are you guys running remapped drives? Seems like after I run sysprep I
start getting ctxgina.dll errors.
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Jobe
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Not that we are aware of, but of course sometimes you are not aware of
everything :-) But we have had no complaints from our users. The same
users used the servers last year in a LAN environment and this year we
consolidated them and are running over a WAN and they seem say there is no
appreciable difference.
The only issue we have at all with the Citrix farm is occasionally the PN
agent goes blank and you have to re-login and refresh the application set.
So if that can be traced to the image then I guess we have an issue but I
doubt that would be the only one if the image caused problems. As always
I am open to new information, if it turns out that the way we imaged is a
no-no then it is re-buildable. I am reading this thread with that very
fact in mind actually, hopefully the are really no problems and not ones
that just take accumulated time to pop up.
Bob Barrett
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Bob,
Have you had any performance problems? The Advanced Concepts Guide states
that you may if you don't uninstall it. Just curious........
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Jobe
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Sorry, thought about that after I sent it. We use a SQL back end for the
datastore and we really did not do anything special. Attached the first
server to the datastore in SQL and ran sysprep. Used Imagecast to upload
the image to our image server (nas box) and then just fired it down to the
other 15 servers. We even had a server crash on us afterward (hardware
issue not image related) and we imaged that one again fine. Sorry I can't
be of more help but we really did not run into any problems.
Bob Barrett
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Good to hear Bob, but can you just give a little more detail to help
everyone..
Did you disable the network card drivers ?
Did you remove it from the farm ?
Did you run SYSPREP ?
Anything else you can think of that I have not asked for
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We have imaged MPS3 with Imagecast and it works fine. We have 16 servers
in production since September that were imaged and all are fine.
Bob Barrett
FVSD#52
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Thanks I found the thread. It doesn't really state if it's MF XP or MPS.
Have you tried it with MPS 3.0?
Thanks,
Jobe Gates
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I have, but so far only restored it back to the same machine. Sometime
next week I'm going to practice cloning it to a new machine.
List participant Phil Newman had this to say about Ghosting Metaframe, and
it's my basic plan of action:
"We use ghost for all out servers - the only modification we do is to
delete the WSID out of the MF20.DSN file, and set the IMA Service to
disabled before running SYSPREP.
The server is then ghosted, and oncew the image has been installed - the
correct WSID, in entered into the MF20.DSN file, and IMA Service started
regards,
Phil Newman"
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Has anyone successfully ghosted a MPS 3.0 on W2K3? I was looking in the
archive and didn't see much about it.
Thanks,
Jobe
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