Or a better way of putting it is: if you are willing to install 2005.04, then why not enable the new features of PS4 if you have the license and it's the same code? When deploying FR3, was it customary to install SP3 to all servers in the farm before switching the servers to use an FR3 license? _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:37 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 Yeah, but there is no difference between 2005.04 and PS4. They are the same except that PS4 has the features enabled while 2005.04 does not. You would essentially be installing the same code base. If a customer is unwilling to upgrade their entire farm to PS4, then why would they be willing to upgrade to 2005.04 since it is the same code? _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:46 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 Perhaps for a small farm, but medium and large farms it is much more difficult to get approvals upgrade the whole farm(Departments, Analysts, Vendors, and the customer themselves). It can take anywhere from 3-12 months to get everything tested and upgraded. A Service Pack is a much easier sell. Here is what the Admin Guide has to say about SP 2005.04: Apply Service Pack 2005.04 to MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. Select this option to apply all service packs for MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. This option does not update your server to the feature set for MetaFrame Presentation Server 4.0. This option fixes only problems solved since the last full release of MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:22 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 I just confirmed from Citrix support that this is supposed to say 2005.04, not Service Pack 4. The updated version of the file will be posted eventually. Note that this is a recommendation, not a requirement. However, if your subscription advantage expiration date is past 4/27, I don't see any point to installing 2005.04 instead of installing PS 4.0 since they are essentially the same thing and you are already licensed for PS 4.0. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:03 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 MetaFrame Service Pack 4 Required on Servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 Citrix does not recommend mixing servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 and 4.0 in the same farm. However, if you must install MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 and 4.0 on servers in a single farm, make sure you update your servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 to Service Pack 4. [#109701] _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:13 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 Found this note.... NOTE: This image also includes Service Pack 2005.04 for MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 ?? Is this the required piece we have never heard of for MPS 3.0 upgrade to 4.0? Chad M. Schneider Technology Analyst Bemis Corporate IT 920-303-7609