All I can say is that if Citrix software is written as well as their documentation, we're all in deep doo doo. Steve Raffensberger Sovereign Bank Network Operations Email: sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:46 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 Perhaps for a small farm, but medium and large farms it is much more difficult to get approvals upgrade the whole farm(Departments, Analysts, Vendors, and the customer themselves)... It can take anywhere from 3-12 months to get everything tested and upgraded. A Service Pack is a much easier sell. Here is what the Admin Guide has to say about SP 2005.04: Apply Service Pack 2005.04 to MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. Select this option to apply all service packs for MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. This option does not update your server to the feature set for MetaFrame Presentation Server 4.0. This option fixes only problems solved since the last full release of MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:22 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 I just confirmed from Citrix support that this is supposed to say 2005.04, not Service Pack 4. The updated version of the file will be posted eventually. Note that this is a recommendation, not a requirement. However, if your subscription advantage expiration date is past 4/27, I don't see any point to installing 2005.04 instead of installing PS 4.0 since they are essentially the same thing and you are already licensed for PS 4.0. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:03 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 MetaFrame Service Pack 4 Required on Servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 Citrix does not recommend mixing servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 and 4.0 in the same farm. However, if you must install MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 and 4.0 on servers in a single farm, make sure you update your servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 to Service Pack 4. [#109701] _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:13 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Downloading Citrix PS 4.0 Found this note.... NOTE: This image also includes Service Pack 2005.04 for MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 ?? Is this the required piece we have never heard of for MPS 3.0 upgrade to 4.0? Chad M. Schneider Technology Analyst Bemis Corporate IT 920-303-7609 This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail, and delete or destroy the message. Thank you.