[THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
- From: "Roger Riggins" <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:17:03 -0500
Hi all!
It's been my experience that having print servers across WANs causes
substantial print delays. Keeping the print servers on the same LAN as
the Citrix servers works best for us.
Roger Riggins | Network Administrator, Information Technology
Lutheran Services in Iowa
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Waverly, Iowa 50677
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angela Smith
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
OK. so centralizing the Print Server incurs additional WAN traversing,
is this the case with Native Drivers and the Universal Driver? Is the
following correct:
1) Native Driver Printing. ( 1-Citrix Server to Print Server, 2-Print
Server to Printer).
2) Universal Driver Printing. ( 1-Server to Client, 2-Client to Print
Server, 3-Print Server to Printer).
3) ScrewDrivers ( 1-Citrix Server to Print Server, 2-Print Server to
Printer).
The other issue with a centralised Print Server is that the Print jobs
spool over a WAN. Having a local Print Server in each branch gets
around this as the Print Job spools on the local Branch Network. The
cost of 20 Print Servers is obviously more expensive than purchasing a
product such as ScrewDrivers. ScrewDrivers would hopefully compress the
Print Spool data to a point where links are not saturated..
This is all theory and I could be wrong. Hope someone can validate it
for me..
Thanks
Ang
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From: joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:05:14 -0700
But even that is not going to work... If it's all centralized then
standard printing will be best solution. Using auto-created printing
is not going to buy anything since the print job will be traversing the
WAN three times ( 1-Server to Client, 2-Client to Print Server, 3-Print
Server to Printer).
Joe
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
If 80% is central it doesn't seem cost effective to do print servers or
Wanscaler/Branch repeaters in each office. I think all central with
ScrewDrivers is a great plan
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net>
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angela Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:53 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
Hi
80% of the applications are run centrally on the Citrix Servers. All
the data is also centrally managed (same network as Citrix servers). We
currently use a centralised MS Print Server but as part of the WAN
upgrade I was going to install Print Servers in each office thinking it
would reduce the bandwidth usage as our existing links do get saturated
with Print traffic. If I go down the ScrewDrivers path my preference
would be to use a centralised Print Server otherwise I need to purchase
30 Servers for each branch office. The endpoint devices are fat clients
(Windows XP based PC's).
We are looking at upgrading the WAN to 4MB MPLS to all sites. The links
will go direct from branch to head office unless someone recommends
otherwise. Internet connection comes out of Head Office. Im unsure if
a WAN upgrade is sufficient to cater for WAN traffic or whether I also
need WANScalers in each office. I simply wanted to ensure I was not
designing something that wasn't best practice...
Ang
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> From: steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:37:19 -0700
>
>
> Are all the applications running centrally on Presentation Server? Is
all
> the data central? What are the endpoint devices?
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
> (602) 432-8649
> www.thinclient.net
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Angela Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:48 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Citrix WAN design - the ultimate design
>
>
> HI
>
> I have the fortunate situation where I have the opportunity to
redesign our
> company WAN links / Citrix design. Is there a best practice for
numerous
> small branch offices (10 - 40 users)? We have 30 sites around the
country
> connected via frame relay links. If you had the opportunity to design
your
> farm from new how would you do it??. Application use is fairly simple
> (Office, Outlook etc). Im not looking for assistance on Citrix farm
> numbers, more high level.. This is what Im thinking:
>
> 4Mb WAN links from Head Office to all sites (direct, not via other
branches)
> Centralised Print Server in Head Office
> Citrix Presentation Server 4.5
> Tricerat ScrewDrivers for Printing
>
>
> Would this be a good start? Would anyone add Citrix WANScalers also or
> would 4Mb links be sufficient for sites with 40 users or less?
>
> Am I on the right track?
>
> Thanks
> Ang
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