So I guess they're finally also doing away with old faithful, CSG? I guess another question I need to ask is those who have a full netscaler, why did you buy that over other products? We're just on the cusp of needing one, I believe, and the network team are championing F5s.. From the trial NS, it does seem to tie in nicely with the rest of the Citrix line, but that's about it. Could well be missing something though :-) Andrew