[THIN] Re: Browse Lists missing apps
- From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:54:00 -0700
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I agree with what Jeff just posted. We used to run Load Balancing,
and that had issues. I told our director that we cannot use Load
Balance, unless we have the switch configured for this. We have had
our NIC's teamed with Fault Tolerant and never had a problem. We
will continue to use this configuration as it has always worked.
Also, the NIC's do need to be plugged into the same switch or blade,
depending on what type of Catalyst you have on prem.
CHRIS LYNCH - MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx Tel 949.367.3406
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Rapp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:38 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Browse Lists missing apps
Dirk,
What type of fault tolerant config are you using, Adapter or Switch?
If it is "Adapter based" then all adapters must be connected to the
same switch or hub. And Spanning Tree must be OFF.
If it is "Switch based" then you can connect to two different
switches and Spanning tree must be ON. The documentation also
indicates that you ca not connect any client devices to the same
switches that the server adapters are connected to or they will not
fail over on a fault. So you basically loose the fault tolerance for
those clients that are connected to the same switches that the
servers are connected to.
You can check out the docs at the following link:
http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/ans/teaming.htm
The Cisco FEC option is the best option. You will get a nice mix of
speed increase and fault tolerance with this config. Split your
servers onto different switches as Brian indicated and you have an
additional layer of tolerance that will allow half of your servers to
stay up if (in the unlikely event) that you loose a switch.
Hope some of this helps sway your NE guys. Just tell them that you
know more than they do. That always seems to get the NE people on
your side ;-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, not sure how Citrix behaves in a Fault Tolerant config. I've
never tried it. If all is configured correctly and you still have the
same problems have the NE guys monitor for errors and line up/down
events on the switch. I could see the IMA bugging out if there is a
bunch of switching between adapters....
Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Blose [mailto:Dirk.Blose@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:14 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Browse Lists missing apps
>
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>
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> I have the NIC's configured as a Fault Tolerant team. The
> Connections go = to separate Switches. The NIC's and switch
> ports are set at 100/Full. = Previously I was setup for Load
> balancing, I switched to Fault Tolerant in = hopes of
> clearing up the problems. Anything anyone can suggest would
> be = appreciated. I saw another reply indicating that Intel
> documentation = states to put both ports on the same switch.
> If I can find that, then I = can use it to push my network
> Engineering guys to change things around.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
> Lead Technical Analyst
> (919) 765-4791
> dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> >>> JeffR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/12/02 01:20PM >>>
>
> Dirk,
>
> Do you still have the NICs set up as a fault tolerant team
> and not a Cisco Fast EtherChannel team? I believe you also
> had them plugged into separate switch. Is this still correct?
> I know that you wanted to do this for redundancy but I think
> your are experiencing more problems than the redundancy might
> be worth.
>
> I would recommend that you make these into a Cisco Fast
> EtherChannel team and that you configure the appropriate
> number of ports on one switch into Fast EtherChannel team
> groups. Set them all to 100Mbps and Full Duplex. = IMHO this
> is the best (and most stable) configuration in a Citrix
> environment. = I mean how often do you lose a Cisco switch?=20
>
> Jeff
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dirk Blose [mailto:Dirk.Blose@xxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > Subject: [THIN] Browse Lists missing apps
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> > We implemented Fault Tolerant Dual Intel Network cards a=20
> > little
> >over a =3D week ago. Since then I am having a lot of=20
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> >users not getting =3D their published=20 applications. I've
> >pretty established that the problem is =3D=20 that the ICA Browse
> >list is getting hosed. If I go into PAM=20 and refresh =3D each
> >application the problem will clear up for=20 a time but this is
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> =3D old. I
> >tried looking at the=20 knowledge base and the archives and
> mostly it
> >=3D talks about=20 if you're multi homed. I am not multi homed.
> >The Nic's are =3D=20 bound into one Virtual Nic which has a
> >single IP assignment.=20 Any assistance=3D would be greatly
> >appreciated. =20
> > Thanks.
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> > Lead Technical Analyst
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