[THIN] Re: Branch Repeater v Riverbeds

  • From: Alan Tropper <Alan.Tropper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:40:50 +0000

Hi,

We use citrix branch repeaters and have had issues with under spec'd central 
branch repeaters, we have had to turn off most of the config settings 
(including ICA compression) to get our network back in order. We see the same 
kind of symptoms as already mentioned also on the branch repeaters, I believe 
riverbeds now have the option to compress ICA traffic...If you're not already 
you can QoS the ICA traffic but video is always a killer as I don't think you 
can mess with QoS for it as it will mess up the stream.

So I guess repeaters aren't the silver bullet here Im afraid.

Cheers

Al

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Pat Coughlin
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013 9:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Branch Repeater v Riverbeds

In my experience the "mixed experience with keyboard and mouse" is more related 
to fluctuations in latency.  A rock solid 270ms (India to Ohio) does not create 
this type of issue.  My offshore customers would complain the most when the 
local link began to be hit by other traffic (folks streaming video in the next 
cube).  Despite having an adequate pipe to the US, the link for their office 
would get congested and once Citrix traffic starts getting dumped into the 
buffer at the router performance drops down the toilet.  It is often worse on a 
dedicated link as the VPN hardware will not report the issues on the wire to 
the client and just queue traffic in it's buffer as well.

Patrick Coughlin
CCIA

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stuart Thompson 
<stuthompson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:stuthompson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello list!

Apologies for not playing an active role in the years i've been following the 
list... however, I turn to you for assistance now and if anyone can offer some 
guidance, i'm sure i'll be able to find it here.

ENVIRONMENT:
I'm faced with high latency from Asia region to Central Europe. From 250ms 
upwards. Available bandwidth is currently not an issue.
Users connect to a VDI Windows 7 desktop from Asia to Europe.

PROBLEM:
Users have mixed experience with keyboard and mouse latency. (lag, 
slowness...etc etc)

BASIC SETUP: (network device)
Currently using Riverbeds v 6.5 and look to v7.0 soon. (v8 out of scope atm)

QUESTIONS:
Although i'm not setting out to change physics ;o) i'm really interested to 
know if anyone has used Branch Repeater instead of Riverbed for this kind of 
user experience to any level of success.

Also, I am very new to Branch Repeater...  any tips or gotachas for testing 
such a device.  I can replicate the latency with a Network Nightmare device.

Any help is greatly appreciated...
Cheers All -  Stu

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