[THIN] Re: Branch Repeater v Riverbeds

  • From: Magnus Hjorleifsson <magnus@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:26:04 -0500

Packet analysis will show you that. In my experience shutting off mouse queuing 
in the template or default Ica file on WI as well as on the server helped alot. 

User latency issue solved and the kingdom rejoiced !!!

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:09, Stuart Thompson <stuthompson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it.
>  
> We've certainly been looking at the local network also, but so far nothing to 
> suggest concern. I'll be revisiting this now.
>  
> The akamai site looks really interesting, but for something else I have in 
> mind! Score - thanks Chris. 
>  
> Interesting comment from Alan too.  We're looking at different configs, 
> looking towards a combination of BR using WCCP and only touching Citrix, 
> Riverbed 'doing' everything else.  We had limited success on the Riverbeds 
> with optimization policies, so reverted those.
>  
> Ultimately i'm really focused on keyboard and mouse latency as reported by 
> the users....  
>  
> Silly question time again:  Is it somehow possible to monitor and report on 
> mouse movement latency?
> Meaning, other than look and feel, how can I say that change X had a negative 
> or positive impact and by what ratio.
> 
> Thanks again everyone,
> Stu
> From: andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:19:13 +0000
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Branch Repeater v Riverbeds
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> …this is a good call: it’s not just about the pipe between you and them – 
> what’s the “local” network like
> 
>  
> 
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Pat Coughlin
> Sent: 11 February 2013 13:39
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Branch Repeater v Riverbeds
> 
>  
> 
> In my experience the "mixed experience with keyboard and mouse" is more 
> related to fluctuations in latency.  A rock solid 270ms (India to Ohio) does 
> not create this type of issue.  My offshore customers would complain the most 
> when the local link began to be hit by other traffic (folks streaming video 
> in the next cube).  Despite having an adequate pipe to the US, the link for 
> their office would get congested and once Citrix traffic starts getting 
> dumped into the buffer at the router performance drops down the toilet.  It 
> is often worse on a dedicated link as the VPN hardware will not report the 
> issues on the wire to the client and just queue traffic in it's buffer as 
> well.
> 
>  
> 
> Patrick Coughlin
> 
> CCIA
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stuart Thompson <stuthompson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello list!
>  
> Apologies for not playing an active role in the years i've been following the 
> list... however, I turn to you for assistance now and if anyone can offer 
> some guidance, i'm sure i'll be able to find it here.
>  
> ENVIRONMENT:
> I'm faced with high latency from Asia region to Central Europe. From 250ms 
> upwards. Available bandwidth is currently not an issue.
> Users connect to a VDI Windows 7 desktop from Asia to Europe.
>  
> PROBLEM:
> Users have mixed experience with keyboard and mouse latency. (lag, 
> slowness...etc etc)
>  
> BASIC SETUP: (network device)
> Currently using Riverbeds v 6.5 and look to v7.0 soon. (v8 out of scope atm)
>  
> QUESTIONS:
> Although i'm not setting out to change physics ;o) i'm really interested to 
> know if anyone has used Branch Repeater instead of Riverbed for this kind of 
> user experience to any level of success.
>  
> Also, I am very new to Branch Repeater...  any tips or gotachas for testing 
> such a device.  I can replicate the latency with a Network Nightmare device.
>  
> Any help is greatly appreciated...
> Cheers All -  Stu
> 
>  

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