[THIN] Re: Application Compatibility

  • From: "Tim Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:14:30 -0400

Application CompatibilityNow how did THAT happen?  Please ignore.  Now where
is that discaimer...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M.
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:54 PM
  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [THIN] Re: Application Compatibility


  Not quite offline....

  :)




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  From: Tim Mangan [mailto:tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:31 PM
  To: Jennifer.Henske@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Cc: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


  Jennifer,

  I'm sending this offline.

  Chances are the reason the list is old is that the group responsible for
the list is no longer at Citrix.  Blame the economy, I guess!

  Unfortunately, the adage "if you don't test it yourself, it isn't tested"
will apply here.  Often problems that appear are quite specific to the
combination of apps (and specific revisions) that will put on a server.  The
items you mention are good start for verifying an app in isolation.  To your
list I add problems with other "presumed" unique resources such as private
data files, named pipes, and mail slots then tend to fail when the second
copy starts.

  Just because app A works, doesn't mean that installing app B won't break
it.  The combinations usually have problems due to dll issues.  I treat
databases as a separate category.  Each Client has a unique way to locate
the database, each requiring unique kludges to allow access to different
databases from the same machine.

  <Pitch starts here...>
  I have heard that you finally have funding for some major upgrade work
over there.  If you have not already considered Softricity to solve the app
conflict issues, you should.  It is a TS/Citrix add on that solves
compatibility issues -  allowing apps to run as if they are on their own
individual server.  This solves the generic problem of a desktop app on a
TS, solves the multi-app with different dll issues, allows different
versions of an app on the same server (like oracle 7 AND oracle 8), and can
solve the different users/apps connecting to different database back end
issues.

  I don't sell the stuff, but do have the contacts at Softricity if you need
them.  In the end, perhaps I might end up being useful once you start
working with the system and need help with preparing some applications.  I
do a bit of consulting in that regard
  <... end pitch>

  tim
  Timothy R. Mangan
  Founder TMurgent Technologies
  tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.tmurgent.com
  +1 781-492-0403


    -----Original Message-----
    From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Henske, Jennifer
    Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:56 PM
    To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
    Subject: [THIN] Application Compatibility


    I have looked through Citrix's (FR3 version) and MS's application
compatibility docs and it seems to me that they focus on applications that
are a few years old and the list isn't really that inclusive.  Does this
mean that newer versions of those apps no longer have issues?  Or does it
mean that the testing hasn't been published?   Has someone gathered all this
information somewhere?  Google gave me a few additional "How to" docs on
compatibility scripting, but not much else out there.

    We are consolidating our TS boxes to a metaframe farm and I have 50 or
so apps (about half were packaged for the desktop) that I need to validate.
Would like to know as much about the app before we get into testing our SMS
packages on MF.  We have some tricky apps like Oracle clients (different
versions), crystal reports and Fsecure.

    Does anyone have a process/checklist on what EXACTLY to look for to make
sure new apps will function properly?  I'm looking for additional "gotchas",
like reg settings in local machine, ini files installed into /program files,
etc.

    Also, what is the best practice on which apps to install together?  We
already have 3 or 4 versions of Mdac and a ton of ODBC drivers that are
required.



    Thanks!

    Jennifer Henske
    Windows Architecture
    A.G. Edwards Technology Group





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