[THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue

  • From: Jason Patten <pattenj@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:22:50 -0500

We don't use active directory and I have found a fix or at least work
around.
I make the user an administrator, log them in and back out of the server,
then remove admin access and after that it works.

Jason


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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Raffensberger [mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:35 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


Jason,

I don't believe the roaming profile is loading at all for your affected
users.
I've seen this myself and here's what I do to fix it.

1. On a Friday or late in the day, remove the user's roaming TSprofile and
profile settings from Active Directory.
2. Let it sit that way for a few hours or days until it replicates.
3. The following morning, add it back the way it was, being careful to avoid
leading and trailing spaces.

Note also that if a user has an NT HOME drive specified in Active Directory,
the Windows directory with its .INI files should appear there instead of
within the roaming profile. In my own personal "best practices", I prefer to
have it there so users can see it and modify it if necessary.

HTH,

Raff

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jason Patten
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:43 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


This is getting odder.  I have done more testing with other users, and have
managed to narrow this down to only affecting a few users.  Most of the
users pull the settings from the Tswin.ini file that loads with their
profile, but these few users get the Default tswin.ini file that loads if
Timesaver is Unable to find an existing one.  Then when they log out the
default file does not overwrite the one stored in the home directory.  For
the users whose tswin.ini file DOES load normally, it also Unloads normally
and overwrites the one in the home directory with any changes upon logout.
Its as if for these users timesaver simply fails to see the Tswin.ini file.

--Jason



All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:26 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


It has been a couple of years since I did this but the reg keys were for
user odbc settings.  Even though the settings were under system, TimeCare
seemed to want them to be user anyway.  I copied the user keys over for that
and things started working.  All the database config utility does is write
those keys for you.  Try putting regmon on there and starting it up and see
what it is looking for.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jason Patten
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


No, they aren't mandatory, However we do have times occasionally when the
settings get wiped out.  A mandatory profile might if that.   As far as I
know there are no registry settings.

Jason
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than
half of you half as well as you deserve.
--Bilbo Baggins

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:05 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


We have ADP TimeCare here which is probably similar.  I have a tcwin.ini
which keeps settings etc..  Are you using mandatory profiles?  I had issues
with the ini file getting read.  I then found the same info in a registry
key and once I set it and updated the registry of the mandatory profile it
started working fine.

if that makes sense.


Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jason Patten
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:23 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] ADP Timesaver and Profile Issue


I have an odd problem with ADP Timesaver and our roaming profiles

In the Timesaver program there is a particular INI file (tswin.ini) that
holds various Import, and other settings that are User specific.  Because we
load balance, I have those users that need to have the settings saved using
roaming profiles.

The problem I'm having is that on One server, timesaver seems to not be
reading the file.  When Timesaver opens up all the settings are blank, if
you check the ini file it has only the Default settings in it. Timesaver
loads a default Tswin.ini file if it doesn't find an existing one in the
profile.   The odd thing is I Know the profile is loading, because we are
set to delete the profile on log off and it is deleting and the user set
tswin file, that is stored in the home directory is not getting overwritten
by the default ini file like I think it would be.  Its almost as if this
server is specifically Ignoring that file when loading and unloading the
profiles.

Has anyone had an experience similar to this?
We are running NT4 TSE sp6 and MF1.8 SP2



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