I think we can expect continuing change, but also continuing convergence of English names and significantly fewer changes in the future (at least for North American names). There has been a concerted effort by the IOC (was Committee, but now is the IOU, the International Ornithologists' Union) to achieve international consensus around world-wide usage of English names and thus a lot of the recent changes. This includes use apostrophes, and use of hyphens and capitalization rules after hyphens, as well as other stuff. This project has been ongoing since at least 2005 and has truly global expert participation. While it started as a naming convention project it now also is a forecast for expected species splits, as well as a rapid inclusion of all newly discovered species. Therefore the IOC world list is larger than that of Clements (which is followed by the ABA), but which we have seen changing steadily in the direction of IOC. The IOC list reflects work in progress, work in preparation for publication, and is updated continuously. Clements on the other hand is updated less than once a year, and adheres strictly to including only publicly published taxa. Thus they will always be a few years behind IOC in this regard. The IOC list at its inception did include a lot of species that were subsequently lumped. This was purposely done I believe in order to create the give-and-take desired for such a dynamic list. I have followed this effort since its inception and it has been quite interesting to see the scientific process at work as the ornithological professional community has begun to work more closely together. Certainly there are still many species 'in play', many disagreements over what is and is not a species (e.g. Eurasian Whimbrel? - which is not currently on either list but recognized by the British Ornithologists Union!) and the refinement and evolution of the Species Concept will continue, but the work to achieve consensus around common English names has been a big plus to us non-professionals that helps to open up timely access for us to this process. Check it out at - http://www.worldbirdnames.org/ There is even a comparison spreadsheet on the website that details the differences between Clements and IOC, not only just the species but also the names. There is still quite a lot of 'convergence' to be made between Clements and IOC, i.e. expect more changes - at least globally. It appears that the North American names/species are in better shape between the two than other parts of the world (but I haven't done the statistics on this). Steve Gast Houston, Texas segast23@xxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: Jim Sinclair <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx> To: emoon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: texbirds <texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:24 AM Subject: [texbirds] Re: silly adherence to 'rules' regarding capitalization Can't resist stirring the pot some more! Scientific names change more frequently than common names. Many 'common' names, like 'roadrunner' apply to more than one species. The trend among several other disciplines is toward capitalization. Capitalization does reduce ambiguity. On Sep 22, 2013 6:54 AM, "Elizabeth Moon" <emoon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Or you could always include the species name, in italics, and editors will > respect that. If you see a common name in lower case & species name in > italics, there can be no confusion and readers can begin to learn at least > the genus and possibly even full species names. You don't have to "know > Latin" to use the scientific name; you just have to look in i a good field > guide. For someone coming to "official" birding from botany or > entomology, the use of capitals for common names seems odd, at least at > first. Esp. when there is no confusion possible (roadrunner, for instance.) > > Elizabeth Moon > Williamson County > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Anthony Hewetson <terrverts@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > Greetings Dan (and all): > > I have been fighting this one with the editors of the New York Times and > The New Yorker for decades. The example I use is yellow warbler. 'Which > specific warbler with 'yellow' in its plumage are you talking about?' has > been my standard plea. My pleas have fallen on deaf ears - or unreasoning > central nervous systems - and I treasure the fact that there is at least > one other person who is bothered by this nonsensical adherence to 'the > rules'. > > > > Fat Tony; Lubbock > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "antshrike1@xxxxxxx" <antshrike1@xxxxxxx> > > To: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:16 PM > > Subject: [texbirds] Yellow-bellied Flycatcher vs. yellow-bellied > flycatcher > > > > > > While sitting in the doctor's office yesterday, I was reading the May > spring migration/birding issue of Texas Parks and Wildlife Magazine. I was > dismayed but not surprised to see all of the bird names written beginning > with lower case letters except for names that involved a person's or > place's name. Thus Cliff Shackelford's article about Mississippi Kites was > about "Mississippi kites". And the article about how rare birds can show > up during migration was illustrated with a photo of a blue mockingbird. > Other birds mentioned in the article included masked tityra and elegant > trogon, although the photo of the "elegant trogon" was labeled "Elegant > trogon". > > > > I see this frequently in posts on Texbirds by people new to the birding > world and it is understandable. But Texas Parks and Wildlife should know > better. I know why they do it this way. It's because some old crusty > grammar teacher (I'm only speaking from experience) very effectively > brainwashed all the editors about the proper use of capital letters. They > are just being diligent editors and following the rules. > > > > > > Your response may be "So what?" Well, these articles are written is a > very basic, dumbed-down style, so as to not scare away basic nature loving > Texans with too much information. And for this magazine, I think that is > entirely appropriate. The problem is your basic "person on the street" has > no concept of "species" and they're probably wondering "How in heck did > that mockingbird turn blue?" "Darned if it ain't a blue mockingbird!" > > > > > > Starting a common bird name with lower case letters fails to communicate > that a particular bird is of a specific species (redundant?) and not just > exhibiting a particular plumage or structural trait. Thus yellow-bellied > flycatcher is simply stating that some type of flycatcher (whatever that > is) has a yellow belly. This would include several empids, young Eastern > Phoebes, Western, Cassin's, Couch's and Tropical Kingbirds, Greater > Kiskadee, etc. But Yellow-bellied Flycatcher means we are talking about > Empidonax flaviventris, a particular species with a very specific set of > traits, behaviors and genome, and not one of the species mentioned > previously. Since few of us speak Latin, a common name with each part > beginning with upper case letters communicates better that the Latin genus > and specific epithet. A tufted titmouse (Don't ask me what a titmouse is!) > might indeed be a Tufted Timouse or it could be an Oak Titmouse, Juniper > Titmouse or maybe > > a Black-crested Titmouse. > > Is the rare stygian owl really an owl from the river Styx? By their > rules it should be Stygian owl. But Stygian Owl means Asio stygius and you > can argue with the ornithologist about the appropriate nature of that > specific epithet. Well, you get the point. > > > > > > I propose a massive letter writing campaign to the editors at Texas > Parks and Wildlife Magazine to try to encourage them to write bird names > (and other species of animals and plants) beginning with upper case > letters. I know this would help enhance communication. We need to start > somewhere. How can we expect the public to want to save a particular > species when they don't even know what the word "species" means. > > > > > > I feel better. > > > > > > Dan Jones, Weslaco > > > > > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner