If the mindset is one of wondering why anyone would drive out of their way to twitch a bird for a list and thus, not take 3 seconds to post the location of a bird, I truly have to respond. I moved to Texas in 1993 and was a very new birder. Because of birders taking the time to give me information, correct my ID's, help me find birds, and help me learn about birding in Texas, I am a much better birder today. Birders like Greg Lasley, Brush Freeman, Ron Weeks, Mark Adams, Dwight Peake, Jim Hailey, Sheridan Coffey, Daniel Peake, Petra Hockey, David Sarkozi, and many, many more (forgive me for the many I haven't listed by name) have always helped me when I needed it. I will never forget Greg Lasley mailing me several pages of his own personal slides of American Black Ducks and Mottled Ducks to help me learn the difference!! That made a huge impression on me in how far people were willing to go in helping others in birding. I think about Ron Weeks making sure my dad and I got a space on a buggy for the CBC so my dad could see a Yellow Rail. I will never forget his generosity. I remember traveling with Dan and Sheridan to the valley to chase three birds for a day because someone had shared with us. Great memories because others shared. I have had the privilege of traveling to San Diego and watching/photographing Elegant Terns at leisure, but not everyone has been able to travel to see these beautiful birds where they are normally found. The reason we share on Texbirds is not because we think the other birder's reason for seeing the bird is in accordance with our own personal worldview, but because that is what birders do, we share (or we should). To be honest, I see this trend of "hiding locations" growing more and more. I sometimes chase and I often do not, just depends upon my mood. I am not a state lister, year lister, but I love my ABA list because it represents memories to me. Why people hide locations is beyond me. We are worried about stuff happening like with the Flammulated Owl in South Padre? Well, let's police ourselves. Isn't that what mature adults do? Imagine a birder traveling to Texas from even further away from where Elegant Terns are found and they happen to be within 30 miles of the bird, why not run over and see an Elegant Tern? They can't because they don't know where it is. I have had the opportunity to do this very thing on several occasions in other states and Canada because someone posted on a local list serve a rarity and I was able to see it. I have no plans to travel to see the bird, so this isn't about me not getting a bird for a "list" or trying to photograph something I haven't. To be honest, it just seems silly to me to take the time to type up everything else but not the location. Just my hope that EVERY birder in our great state will ALWAYS share with other birders so that we can keep this hobby exactly what it ought to be. I love teaching Beginning Birding classes because I love to share the treasure of knowledge and skills that I have learned from other birders and pass that on. Every single birder on this list has benefitted from the work, effort, skills, knowledge, time, money, and contribution of other birders. Let's please work to keep this hobby what it has been, a community experience. I don't post my full lists usually but I always try to post a location of a bird that I know local or out-of-town birders would want to see. Unless someone else has already reported seeing the bird that day and then I try to not clutter the email. Just my two cents. Lee Hoy Georgetown, TX Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner