[texbirds] Re: ELTE; location issue; falsification and record committee
- From: Jan Piecznski <custom_heirlooms@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bsimmons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bsimmons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Texbirds <texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:29:42 -0700 (PDT)
Yes I don't think it is right either. Having known Mr. Collins a long time and
my family knowing him a very long time. I find Mark's remark out of line. As
a manager of a different email list, I would moderate such emails so they were
not sent to the list or available online. Knowing this topic was going to be a
sensitive one from the original email asking others to look at a picture to see
what they thought it was without a general location, I wonder why this did not
switch to a moderated list for the short term. Although I didn't read the
lengthy email in detail, I fail to see how this is helping birders. Mr.
Collins on the other hand DOES help birders. How about switch to a different
heated topic, like does everyone know that the law says in Texas ALL your court
records are to be available for online access by the end of 2014? Majority of
them are already there. Doesn't it scare you that in less than 5 minutes it is
free and easy to
learn everything you would not like known to others, including all your
residences, date of birth, everything?
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From: Bob Simmons <bsimmons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Texbirds <texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: [texbirds] Re: ELTE; location issue; falsification and record
committee
As someone who has known Fred Collins for many years and who has been on a
number of
his birding trips, I don't think Mark's sneering characterization of Fred is
fair.
--
On 21 Sep 2013 at 2:41, Mark Bartosik wrote (in part):
> ... but I will comment on Fred Collins suggestions only because he, or more
> precisely
> behavior of people from his birding bus tour are one perfect example and one
> of the major
> reasons why I did not disclose the ELTE location. I never thought about
> posting about this
> incident but so many people want to know my reasons behind my decision.
> Perhaps you can
> thank Fred Collins (who failed to keep herd under control; and no I do not
> have any hard
> feelings against him; seems to be a nice person; I say that even that I feel
> that he holds
> something against me and try to stress it out every time he got a chance)
> and others for
> that. I hope he remembers when a few months ago (on April 12) he brought a
> busload of
> "birders" (I did not count them, 40? - OK checked on eBird: 32
> http://ebird.org/ebird/tx/view/checklist?subID=S13724306 ) to Rollover Pass.
> Public place
> were everybody has equal rights there. But many people from his group behave
> interestedly.
> I was there to check on Least Terns. Sitting in my car close to the water
> line (perhaps
> 20-30 feet away) for some time I was making interesting (to me) notes. One
> male just
> started to keep feeding a female bringing a fish every few minutes. I wanted
> to know how
> many fishes he will bring and for how long he will keep bringing them. Thanks
> to several
> "birders" from the bus I lost the opportunity. Not only mob did not pay any
> attention
> that my car was parked on the side not blocking any access and I clearly was
> taking
> photographs a few of them walk and stood for about HALF HOUR between my lens
> and the edge
> of water. As they already scared away all birds I had nothing else to do but
> just wait for
> them to leave. How I know it was half hour - because I took many photos of
> them including
> video as well; all with these funny dog tags attached. So I do have well
> documented record
> and trust me you do not want me to post these photos and video clips on the
> youtube...
--
Bob Simmons
Houston, Texas
bsimmons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The punishment we suffer, if we refuse to take an interest in matters of
government, is to live under the government of worse men. -- Plato
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