Guys; This chatter is nice..we have a Chat List for exactly this type of banter. We require a few more members to make it interesting, to use this Chat Line for "off topic" discussions. If possible, and we all stray..if we could use "TechAssist" as a reference for passing on Technical Info, and use the Chat portion for interesting "Tid Bits" that may not interest everyone, but to some. Since I had a couple of "Canucks" doing just that..I jumped in. TechAssist has it all... chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -Ed- -Ed- Ed Gaidies Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx teltek@xxxxxxxxx On 18-Feb-05, at 11:08 PM, Gary McCartney wrote: > Kevin, I am only child and a bit intraverted but getting over it as I > get older. I don't mind talking to most people when they come to the > shop. I hate service calls so I don't do them. > > > > > Gary McCartney > > McCartney Electronics > Guelph Ontario Canada > Est. 1984 > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > > > > > > > > Kevin wrote: >> I am an only child as well. I work much better with objects than >> people. We should do a poll and find out if this is true for most >> technicians on this list. Just a thought. I do enjoy going on >> service >> calls and meeting different people, but I don't like when they hang >> over >> my shoulder and don't say much when I try to strike up a conversation. >> >> >> Kevin Wilks >> Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> Penticton BC Canada >> kevintv@xxxxxxx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerome Silverman >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:24 PM >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration >> Training] >> >> Of course we are anti-social and introverted! Why do you think we are >> in >> this business? Its because we are more interested in things than in >> people. >> Jerry Silverman >> Greentron Inc >> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 >> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 >> greentron@xxxxxxx >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:56 PM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration >> Training] >> >> >> >>> Jim, >>> I am also an only child,maybe that explains it!I am anti >> >> social,currently >> >>> in trouble for calling NESDA to task for NSA.Lotsa people sore at me, >> >> I >> got >> >>> phone calls.NSA hasn't got a chance in hell, but I don't want the >>> manufacturers pissed off and going depot! >>> >>> Al Leatherman >>> 224 RT. 46 >>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803 >>> 973-361-5796 >>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:24 PM >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration >> >> Training] >> >>> >>>> Yes Roy, >>>> I can proudly say (for what it's worth) that any acquisition of new >>>> ASC brands were due to nothing more than my own skills and tenacity. >>>> >>>> NESDA did nothing for me in that regard, although I did get to talk >> >> to >> >>>> the "heavy hitters" while they were in party mode...not much hard >> >> core >> >>>> business >>>> happened there. >>>> >>>> I found NESDA to be too clannish ( on several levels). I was more >>>> interested >>>> in industry politics than tech training-which made some people >>>> uncomfortable. >>>> Apparently you fit in just fine. I am an an "only child" which >> >> makes me >> >>>> anti-social by definition...oh well, >>>> we all have our little crosses to bear... ;-) >>>> >>>> Jim McVey >>>> McVey Alltronix >>>> 327 Broadway >>>> Newburgh N.Y. 12550 >>>> >>>> "If it doesn't play... >>>> CALL MCVEY !!!!!!" >>>> Factory authorized >>>> service for over 20 >>>> major brands. >>>> 845 561 8383 >>>> (Last of the Mohegans) >>>> >>>> LeRoy Westlund wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, Jim. >>>>> I'll bet you already had ASC status on them 20 brands you now >> >> service, >> >>>>> long >>>>> before you ever became a member of Nesda. I know from your posts >> >> that >> you >> >>>>> were once a member, just like I was. >>>>> I quit because of financial problems, NOT because I thought it was >>>>> a >>>>> useless >>>>> organization. >>>>> >>>>> Although I TOO disagreed with many of the projects they were >>>>> pushing,.....I >>>>> am still convinced that by being an active member of Nesda, the >>>>> manufacturers will be more likely to look at your profile as >>>>> someone >> >> who >> >>>>> they might want in their corner of the ring. >>>>> In otherwords it is easier for those service centers, who want to >>>>> continue, >>>>> and see a future in this business, to become an ASC for a major >>>>> manufacturer, by first becoiming a member of Nesda. Association, >>>>> and >>>>> contacts at conventions, etc., makes it easier. I plan on >>>>> re-joining >> >> them >> >>>>> again before their next convention this summer. I MISS being a part >> >> of >> >>>>> that >>>>> organization. >>>>> >>>>> I don't promise I'll make it to Orlando this >> >> summer,....but,....maybe >> >>>>> Vegas, >>>>> Nashville, or Reno, in 2006. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, >>>>> LLW >>>>> >>>>> LeRoy Westlund >>>>> Westlund TV & Electronics >>>>> 97 North Main " I forgot,..to >> >> remember,.. >> >>>>> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget " >>>>> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>>> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:05 AM >>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration >>>>> Training] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Then again Al, >>>>>> You can become an ASC and get your training for free! >>>>>> Other benefits include ( but not limited to:) customer referrals, >>>>>> mfr bulletins, tips, fixes, and expedited parts delivery. >>>>>> >>>>>> Collectively here on Techassist we can pool our information to >>>>>> 'fill in the holes" for products that we may not be authorized >> >> for. >> >>>>>> I think we've got the whole gamut covered already. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim McVey >>>>>> McVey Alltronix >>>>>> 327 Broadway >>>>>> Newburgh N.Y. 12550 >>>>>> >>>>>> "If it doesn't play... >>>>>> CALL MCVEY !!!!!!" >>>>>> Factory authorized >>>>>> service for over 20 >>>>>> major brands. >>>>>> 845 561 8383 >>>>>> (Last of the Mohegans) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Al L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Phil, >>>>>>> For $1500 you can come to NPSC in Orlando this Summer,have cash >> >> left >> >>>>>>> over, and learn more useful stuff.Unless you are gonna fix a LOT >> >> of >> LCD >> >>>>>>> >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> big bucks,you don't need expensive equipment or training.When >>>>>>> offf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> warranty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> we won't be able to fix that stuff profitably anyway,due to parts >> >> cost >> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> service lit.!If the owner's didn't buy insurance,they won't pay. >> >> mark >> my >> >>>>>>> words folks.Do it for the manufacturers(get free training), and >> >> the >> >>>>>>> insurance companies. >>>>>>> The Sencore salesman was my good buddy until I stopped >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> buying,actually >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> insulted me at the last meeting! >>>>>>> Join NESDA,folks,take the training,and hope for the best. You >> >> may >> >>>>>>> >>>>> flame >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> me privately if you wish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Al Leatherman >>>>>>> 224 RT. 46 >>>>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803 >>>>>>> 973-361-5796 >>>>>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:02 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration >> >> Training] >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought I would forward this to the group. >>>>>>>> Jerry from Sencore called me this morning with the details of >> >> this >> >>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> I recieved yesterday. This LCD monitor course is essentially to >>>>>>>> familiarize techs with repair of the LCD PC monitors.How to tell >>>>>>>> if,or=20 >>>>>>>> whick backlight is bad,invertor troubleshooting,locating the >> >> parts=20 >> >>>>>>>> sources,etc. The 3 day course"introductory price is $1500.00. >>>>>>>> Regular price will be $2500.00. >>>>>>>> I asked if there will be a course on CD with workbook like the >>>>>>>> monitor=20 >>>>>>>> repair course I bought years ago. Said no. And only in the >> >> mentioned=20 >> >>>>>>>> locations. >>>>>>>> He said this is also helpful in component level repairs of the >> >> LCD >> >>>>>>>> big=20 >>>>>>>> screen TVs. I said those are board replacement, and if you know >> >> what=20 >> >>>>>>>> parts are bad on those (multi layer) boards, the mfgr doesn't >>>>>>>> support=20 >>>>>>>> that anyway. Jerry disagreed. >>>>>>>> That kind of ended the call. I didn't mean to be blunt, but I >> >> said >> i=20 >> >>>>>>>> thought it was a heap of cash for a generac course to fix PC >>>>>>>> LCDs >>>>>>>> that=20 >>>>>>>> are dropping in price fast. That outlay of money for travel, >> >> lodging >> >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> the course would never be recouped. He disagreed,said they are >>>>>>>> getting=20 >>>>>>>> loads of calls. >>>>>>>> Maybe I am all wrong. >>>>>>>> Jerry is a very nice, helpful salesman. I just can't justify the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> money.=20 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Nor do I have it to "invest" in this. >>>>>>>> Phil Bader >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>>>> Subject: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration Training >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:29:32 -0600 >>>>>>>> From: Jeff Murray - Sencore <sales@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Jeff Murray - Sencore <sales@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> To: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> presents... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The LCD Maintenance & Calibration Training >>>>>>>> you have been waiting for! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our comprehensive hands-on LCD Training program covers >> >> troubleshooting, >> >>>>>>>> >>>>> c= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> alibration concepts, and servicing techniques for LCD display >> >> types. >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In this 3-day course, you will learn: >>>>>>>> =95 CRT vs. LCD >>>>>>>> =95 DVI Theory =97 DVI Interface >>>>>>>> =95 System Block Diagram =97 Troubleshooting Techniques >>>>>>>> =95 Precision Color Balance Adjustment >>>>>>>> =95 Digital Signal Processing >>>>>>>> =95 SMPS & LCD Inverter Power Supply >>>>>>>> =85and more!!=20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LCD Troubleshooting and Calibration >>>>>>>> Course Locations and Dates >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Puerto Rico 03/28/05 =97 03/30/05 >>>>>>>> Toronto, ON 04/18/05 - 04/20/05 >>>>>>>> Atlantic City, NJ 05/09/05 =97 05/11/05 >>>>>>>> Reno, NV 07/11/05 =97 07/13/05 >>>>>>>> Las Vegas, NV 09/12/05 =97 09/14/05 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For a full course description, call 1-800-736-2673 or visit our >> >> LCD >> >>>>>>>> >>>>> train= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> ing page on the Web at www.sencore.com/train/lcdtraining.htm. >> >> Seating >> >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> limited to 20 per location, so call to reserve your space today! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> Jeff Murray >>>>>>>> Sales and Marketing Manager >>>>>>>> Phone: 1.800.736.2673 >>>>>>>> Int'l Phone: 1.605.339.0100 >>>>>>>> Email: sales@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Sencore, Inc. >>>>>>>> 3200 Sencore Drive >>>>>>>> Sioux Falls, SD 57107 >>>>>>>> http://www.sencore.com >>>>>>>> We hope you have found the material in this email useful. >> >> However, if >> >>>>>>>> >>>>> you= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> 'd rather not receive future special pricing or new product >> >> e-mails >> >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Sencore.com, click on 'Cancel' and Sencore will remove your name >> >> from >> >>>>>>>> >>>>> thi= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> s list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Philip Bader >>>>>>>> Jan Phyl TV Inc. 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