[TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration Training]

  • From: Ed Gaidies <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:03:08 -0500

Guys;
This chatter is nice..we have a Chat List for exactly this type of  
banter.
We require a few more members to make it interesting, to use this Chat  
Line for "off topic" discussions.

If possible, and we all stray..if we could use "TechAssist" as a  
reference for passing on Technical Info, and use the Chat portion for  
interesting "Tid Bits" that may not interest everyone, but to some.

Since I had a couple of "Canucks" doing just that..I jumped in.

TechAssist has it all...

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-Ed-

-Ed-
Ed Gaidies      
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
teltek@xxxxxxxxx        

On 18-Feb-05, at 11:08 PM, Gary McCartney wrote:

> Kevin, I am only child and a bit intraverted but getting over it as I
> get older. I don't mind talking to most people when they come to the
> shop. I hate service calls so I don't do them.
>
>
>
>
> Gary McCartney
>
> McCartney Electronics
> Guelph Ontario Canada
> Est. 1984
> email: gary (at) number63.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevin wrote:
>> I am an only child as well.  I work much better with objects than
>> people.  We should do a poll and find out if this is true for most
>> technicians on this list.  Just a thought.  I do enjoy going on  
>> service
>> calls and meeting different people, but I don't like when they hang  
>> over
>> my shoulder and don't say much when I try to strike up a conversation.
>>
>>
>> Kevin Wilks
>> Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>> Penticton BC Canada
>> kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerome Silverman
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:24 PM
>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration
>> Training]
>>
>> Of course we are anti-social and introverted! Why do you think we are  
>> in
>> this business? Its because we are more interested in things than in
>> people.
>> Jerry Silverman
>> Greentron Inc
>> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>> greentron@xxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:56 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration
>> Training]
>>
>>
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>   I am also an only child,maybe that explains it!I am anti
>>
>> social,currently
>>
>>> in trouble for calling NESDA to task for NSA.Lotsa people sore at me,
>>
>> I
>> got
>>
>>> phone calls.NSA hasn't got a chance in hell, but I don't want the
>>> manufacturers pissed off and going depot!
>>>
>>> Al Leatherman
>>> 224 RT. 46
>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>> 973-361-5796
>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:24 PM
>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration
>>
>> Training]
>>
>>>
>>>> Yes Roy,
>>>> I can proudly say (for what it's worth) that any acquisition of  new
>>>> ASC brands were due to nothing more than my own skills and tenacity.
>>>>
>>>> NESDA did nothing for me in that regard, although I did get to talk
>>
>> to
>>
>>>> the "heavy hitters" while they were in party mode...not much hard
>>
>> core
>>
>>>> business
>>>> happened there.
>>>>
>>>> I found NESDA to be too clannish ( on several levels). I was more
>>>> interested
>>>> in industry politics than tech training-which made some people
>>>> uncomfortable.
>>>> Apparently you fit in just fine. I am  an an "only child" which
>>
>> makes me
>>
>>>> anti-social by definition...oh well,
>>>> we all have our little crosses to bear... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim McVey
>>>> McVey Alltronix
>>>> 327 Broadway
>>>> Newburgh N.Y. 12550
>>>>
>>>> "If it doesn't play...
>>>> CALL MCVEY !!!!!!"
>>>> Factory authorized
>>>> service for over 20
>>>> major brands.
>>>> 845 561 8383
>>>> (Last of the Mohegans)
>>>>
>>>> LeRoy Westlund wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, Jim.
>>>>> I'll bet you already had ASC status on them 20 brands you now
>>
>> service,
>>
>>>>> long
>>>>> before you ever became a member of Nesda. I know from your posts
>>
>> that
>> you
>>
>>>>> were once a member, just like I was.
>>>>> I quit because of financial problems, NOT because I thought it was  
>>>>> a
>>>>> useless
>>>>> organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I TOO disagreed with many of the projects they were
>>>>> pushing,.....I
>>>>> am still convinced that by being an active member of Nesda, the
>>>>> manufacturers will be more likely to look at your profile as  
>>>>> someone
>>
>> who
>>
>>>>> they might want in their corner of the ring.
>>>>> In otherwords it is easier for those service centers, who want to
>>>>> continue,
>>>>> and see a future in this business, to become an ASC for a major
>>>>> manufacturer, by first becoiming a member of Nesda. Association,  
>>>>> and
>>>>> contacts at conventions, etc., makes it easier. I plan on  
>>>>> re-joining
>>
>> them
>>
>>>>> again before their next convention this summer. I MISS being a part
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> that
>>>>> organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't promise I'll make it to Orlando this
>>
>> summer,....but,....maybe
>>
>>>>> Vegas,
>>>>> Nashville, or Reno, in 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO,
>>>>> LLW
>>>>>
>>>>> LeRoy Westlund
>>>>> Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>> 97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to
>>
>> remember,..
>>
>>>>> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration
>>>>> Training]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again Al,
>>>>>> You can become an ASC and get your training for free!
>>>>>> Other benefits include ( but not limited to:) customer referrals,
>>>>>> mfr bulletins, tips, fixes, and expedited parts delivery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collectively here on Techassist we can pool our information to
>>>>>> 'fill in the holes"  for  products that we may not be authorized
>>
>> for.
>>
>>>>>> I think we've got the whole gamut covered already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim McVey
>>>>>> McVey Alltronix
>>>>>> 327 Broadway
>>>>>> Newburgh N.Y. 12550
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If it doesn't play...
>>>>>> CALL MCVEY !!!!!!"
>>>>>> Factory authorized
>>>>>> service for over 20
>>>>>> major brands.
>>>>>> 845 561 8383
>>>>>> (Last of the Mohegans)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al L wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil,
>>>>>>> For $1500 you can come to NPSC in Orlando this Summer,have cash
>>
>> left
>>
>>>>>>> over, and learn more  useful stuff.Unless you are gonna fix a LOT
>>
>> of
>> LCD
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> big bucks,you don't need expensive equipment or training.When  
>>>>>>> offf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> warranty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> we won't be able to fix that stuff profitably anyway,due to parts
>>
>> cost
>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> service lit.!If the owner's didn't buy insurance,they won't pay.
>>
>> mark
>> my
>>
>>>>>>> words folks.Do it for the manufacturers(get free training), and
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>> insurance companies.
>>>>>>>   The Sencore salesman was my good buddy until I stopped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> buying,actually
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> insulted me at the last meeting!
>>>>>>>  Join NESDA,folks,take the training,and hope for the best. You
>>
>> may
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> flame
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> me privately if you wish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al Leatherman
>>>>>>> 224 RT. 46
>>>>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>> 973-361-5796
>>>>>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:02 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration
>>
>> Training]
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought I would forward this to the group.
>>>>>>>> Jerry from Sencore called me this morning with the details of
>>
>> this
>>
>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recieved yesterday. This LCD monitor course is essentially to
>>>>>>>> familiarize techs with repair of the LCD PC monitors.How to tell
>>>>>>>> if,or=20
>>>>>>>> whick backlight is bad,invertor troubleshooting,locating the
>>
>> parts=20
>>
>>>>>>>> sources,etc. The 3 day course"introductory price is $1500.00.
>>>>>>>> Regular price will be $2500.00.
>>>>>>>> I asked if there will be a course on CD with workbook like the
>>>>>>>> monitor=20
>>>>>>>> repair course I bought years ago. Said no. And only in the
>>
>> mentioned=20
>>
>>>>>>>> locations.
>>>>>>>> He said this is also helpful in component level repairs of the
>>
>> LCD
>>
>>>>>>>> big=20
>>>>>>>> screen TVs. I said those are board replacement, and if you know
>>
>> what=20
>>
>>>>>>>> parts are bad on those (multi layer) boards, the mfgr doesn't
>>>>>>>> support=20
>>>>>>>> that anyway. Jerry disagreed.
>>>>>>>> That kind of ended the call. I didn't mean to be blunt, but I
>>
>> said
>> i=20
>>
>>>>>>>> thought it was a heap of cash for a generac course to fix PC  
>>>>>>>> LCDs
>>>>>>>> that=20
>>>>>>>> are dropping in price fast. That outlay of money for travel,
>>
>> lodging
>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the course would never be recouped. He disagreed,said they are
>>>>>>>> getting=20
>>>>>>>> loads of calls.
>>>>>>>> Maybe I am all wrong.
>>>>>>>> Jerry is a very nice, helpful salesman. I just can't justify the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> money.=20
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nor do I have it to "invest" in this.
>>>>>>>> Phil Bader
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>> Subject: Sencore LCD Maintenance and Calibration Training
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:29:32 -0600
>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Murray - Sencore <sales@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Jeff Murray - Sencore <sales@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> presents...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The LCD Maintenance & Calibration Training
>>>>>>>> you have been waiting for!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our comprehensive hands-on LCD Training program covers
>>
>> troubleshooting,
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> c=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alibration concepts, and servicing techniques for LCD display
>>
>> types.
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this 3-day course, you will learn:
>>>>>>>> =95 CRT vs. LCD
>>>>>>>> =95 DVI Theory =97 DVI Interface
>>>>>>>> =95 System Block Diagram =97 Troubleshooting Techniques
>>>>>>>> =95 Precision Color Balance Adjustment
>>>>>>>> =95 Digital Signal Processing
>>>>>>>> =95 SMPS & LCD Inverter Power Supply
>>>>>>>> =85and more!!=20
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LCD Troubleshooting and Calibration
>>>>>>>> Course Locations and Dates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Puerto Rico         03/28/05 =97 03/30/05
>>>>>>>> Toronto, ON         04/18/05 - 04/20/05
>>>>>>>> Atlantic City, NJ   05/09/05 =97 05/11/05
>>>>>>>> Reno, NV             07/11/05 =97 07/13/05
>>>>>>>> Las Vegas, NV     09/12/05 =97 09/14/05
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a full course description, call 1-800-736-2673 or visit our
>>
>> LCD
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> train=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ing page on the Web at www.sencore.com/train/lcdtraining.htm.
>>
>> Seating
>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> limited to 20 per location, so call to reserve your space today!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> Jeff Murray
>>>>>>>> Sales and Marketing Manager
>>>>>>>> Phone: 1.800.736.2673
>>>>>>>> Int'l Phone: 1.605.339.0100
>>>>>>>> Email: sales@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Sencore, Inc.
>>>>>>>> 3200 Sencore Drive
>>>>>>>> Sioux Falls, SD 57107
>>>>>>>> http://www.sencore.com
>>>>>>>> We hope you have found the material in this email useful.
>>
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>>>>>>>> --=20
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Philip Bader
>>>>>>>> Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>>>>>> 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>>>>>> Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>>>>>> email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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