Thanks Al, will consider it, but have too much time and money in this set now. Will try my VA62 first. Bruce. ----- Original Message ----- From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >I have a TAG generator you can have for $50. > Al Marquardt > ampm@xxxxxxx > Al Marquardt Electronic Repair > 206 W Main > Girardville Pa. 17935 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Tiedeman" <btied@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:44 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. > > >> Thanks Jim, >> This problem does look like a EPROM. I am going to try and align the >> tuner. >> Have had no success doing this in the past . I have a Sencore VA62 signal >> generator but do not have a procedure for these type tuners.. I could get >> the Service manual but thought it suggests using a TAG generator which I >> don't have for the alignment. If any one has a easy alignment procedure >> for >> these sets would appreciate it. >> Bruce. >> >> B&T Electronics >> 139 Margaret St >> Sarnia Ontario >> Canada >> N7T 2Y3 >> 519 344 1850 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:34 AM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >> >> >>> Replacing the EEprom and just plugging in random numbers does not always >>> work, you may have to go through the tuner alignment procedure in the >>> service manual to get it right, you do have to do it from start to >>> finish, not just till you see a picture on the channel it is tuned to. >>> >>> The Old Master Technician >>> ******************************** >>> Since 1972 * >>> Jim Myers * >>> Telrad Electronics * >>> Fort Wayne Indiana * >>> ******************************** >>> >>> >>> John Conti wrote: >>>> Tuning voltage is developed at pin 7 of the flyback by >>>> cr4113,c4130,cr4108. >>>> This can be checked at the cathode of cr4109 (a 33vzener)at the top of >>>> the >>>> pcb near the right front edge of the tuner wrap. alsoalso at r7411 a 1 >>>> meg >>>> resistor at collector of q7401. Lighting often damages the zener. also >>>> knownof instances in which r7411 opened. Don,t know if thiswill help >>>> any >>>> but >>>> worth a look at. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Conti,sTV >>>> Texas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>From: "Damon" <damoneb@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >>>>>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:12:29 -0500 >>>>> >>>>>I wonder if this is the chassis where the bad SMD cap causes the AFT >>>>>pulse >>>>>to the micro to disappear? >>>>> >>>>>Damon B >>>>>Telrad Electronics >>>>>Fort Wayne IN >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Bruce Tiedeman" <btied@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:23 PM >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Ed, thanks for looking, been off for a couple days. I did get it. >>>>>>Still >>>>>>working on this tough one. All voltages working good according to >>>>> >>>>>trouble >>>>> >>>>>>guide, looks like off frequency just enough, no pix sound only. I have >>>>>>another chassis am running some voltage checks to compare. >>>>>>Bruce. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:49 PM >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Bruce; >>>>>>>If you can't get it over the weekend, remind me Tuesday morning, I >>>>>>>may have it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Ed- >>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >>>>>>>Ontario-Canada >>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Learn from past mistakes.Or you are bound to repeat them" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Aug 21, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Bruce Tiedeman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yes AL, Still need that file. I have written a similar model EPROM >>>>>>>>file to >>>>>>>>the chip no luck. The parameters are there but still off frequency. >>>>>>>>I have >>>>>>>>tech tips from Gary to help in trouble shooting. >>>>>>>>Bruce. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Al Gutz" <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:21 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177AE Model#G26685 Tuner Problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bruce >>>>>>>>> I have the 218403 file if you still need it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Gary >>>>>>>>> Did I not send you the RCA eeproms I had, this one should be >>>>> >>>>>there. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Al G >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Gary McCartney wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bruce, that is eeprom # 218403. I don't have the file for that >>>>>>>>>>but I do >>>>>>>>>>have one for 218402 which is for CTC177AF. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have some tuner tips which I'll look for and send to you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Gary McCartney >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>McCartney Electronics >>>>>>>>>>Guelph Ontario Canada >>>>>>>>>>Est. 1984 >>>>>>>>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bruce Tiedeman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Looking for EPROM data for the CTC177AE chassis if some has it. >>>>>>>>>>>(Pony >>>>>>>>>>>program .ep2 format). The lower channels have audio only and a >>>>>>>>>>>off >>>>>>>>>>>frequency >>>>>>>>>>>display. >>>>>>>>>>>The tuner voltages check good on the FET transistors and the >>>>>>>>>>>IC's. I >>>>>>>>>>>don't >>>>>>>>>>>have a complete trouble shooting guide for this tuner. I can not >>>>>>>>>>>pick up >>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>>>tuned signal with my scope, but the voltages with in the tuner >>>>>>>>>>>check >>>>>>>>>>>good. >>>>>>>>>>>Some else has done the tuner wrap on this chassis but customer >>>>>>>>>>>is vague >>>>>>>>>>>about the repair. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>thanks for any help, >>>>>>>>>>>Bruce. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>B&T Electronics >>>>>>>>>>>139 Margaret St >>>>>>>>>>>Sarnia Ontario >>>>>>>>>>>Canada >>>>>>>>>>>N7T 2Y3 >>>>>>>>>>>519 344 1850 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>---------- >>>>>>>>>>>This Email List is Public. 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