Without opening a can of worms here , ;-) I remember a LOT of posts about those lift carts I have an arthritic back and working down on the floor on these projos hurts. Elbow on the floor supporting me sideways as i solder and hold things up at the same time... . Is there a general consesis as to the best method to elevate a PTV up a few feet and be sturdy, stable and with the lifting device out of the way (no braces,etc in front of the work area). Not necessarily to move it about, just hike it up where I can sit and solder. I'm 48 going on 88. Phil Bader -- Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/