If the vehicle flow is low, will pedestrians take any notice of signals if used? I suggest you consider setting the stopline back far enough to give a clear path for pedestrians on their desire line. Technically there should be studs and stop there. Because the vehicles will be coming from a pedestrianised area if I understand you, they will be moving slowly and the drivers will be aware of pedestrians. PW -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Denyer Sent: 06 November 2007 16:09 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Pedestrian Area PKC currently have a pedestrian precinct on one leg of a standard signalised crossroads junction. At present it is one way into the pedestrian precinct with pedestrians basically moving out of the way of traffic.=20 The one way is about to be reversed with vehicles coming out into the junction. They will now require a stop line and signal heads etc. =20 Any suggestions for the peds crossing over this leg when this approach gets a green ??? =20 Does anyone have a similar layout ??? =20 Thanks =20 =20 Scott Denyer Senior Engineer Street Lighting Partnership Perth & Kinross Council The Atrium 137 Glover Street Perth PH2 0HY =20 Tel 01738 588063 Fax 01738 445016 Mob 07771 814816 =20 Securing the future... - Improving services - Enhancing quality=20 of life - Making best use of public resources The information in this email is solely for the intended=20 recipients.=20 If you are not an intended recipient, you must not disclose,=20 copy,=20 or=20 distribute its contents or use them in any way: please advise the=20 sender immediately and delete this email. Perth & Kinross Council does not warrant that this email or any=20 attachments are virus-free and does not accept any liability for=20 any=20 loss or damage resulting from any virus infection. Perth &=20 Kinross=20 Council may monitor or examine any emails received by its email=20 system. The information contained in this email may not be the views of=20 Perth=20 & Kinross Council. It is possible for email to be falsified and=20 the=20 sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of the=20 information=20 contained in it. Requests to Perth & Kinross Council under the Freedom of=20 Information=20 (Scotland) Act should be directed to the Freedom of Information=20 Team - =20 email: foi@xxxxxxxxxx General enquiries should be made to enquiries@xxxxxxxxxx or 01738=20 475000. ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ************************************************************ COMPANY PARTICULARS: For particulars of companies within the Amey Group, pl= ease visit http://www.amey.co.uk/Home/Companyparticulars/tabid/182/Default.= aspx CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and accompanying data are for th= e sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is= confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that= any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is= prohibited. If you received this email message in error, please notify us = immediately and erase all copies of this message and attachments. Please note that Amey monitors incoming and outgoing mail for compliance wi= th its Email Policy. This includes scanning emails for computer viruses. ************************************************************ ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug