Yeah, looks like it’s 180 days to file a dispute with PayPal which is way more
than a normal credit card would typically offer.
On Jan 29, 2019, at 8:21 PM, Kristofer Daugirdas <kdaug1120@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You have 180 days Scott. At least I do.
-Kip
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On Jan 29, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Scott Yow (Redacted sender "syow13" for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
No not with PayPal Kip… With PayPal if you bought it on Black Friday you
only have until 7 February which is why I decided to escalate it now… After
that with PayPal you have no right to ask for a refund… I think if we paid
with credit card you would be right you have much more time
So sad :(
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On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Kip Daugirdas <kdaug1120@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:kdaug1120@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
You have about a half a year to file your dispute - 180 days from date of
purchase. There is still plenty of time. As far as freaking out, my limit
is around the April time frame.
https://www.paypal.com/gm/smarthelp/article/do-i-have-to-file-a-paypal-buyer-protection-claim-within-a-certain-timeframe-faq1417
<https://www.paypal.com/gm/smarthelp/article/do-i-have-to-file-a-paypal-buyer-protection-claim-within-a-certain-timeframe-faq1417>
Hope this helps,
Kip
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 5:30 PM Doug Wade <doug@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:doug@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That’s the thing, I’ve been in that situation before and usually there’s
some kind of limit for how many days you have to file a chargeback.
On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Toby Vanderbeek <tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I don't mind waiting if I'm going to get my stuff. I just don't want to
wait too long and get shafted, then not be able to get my money back.
Regards,
Toby Vanderbeek
tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:14 PM Ralovley <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
2 1/2 months!
Sad no Comunication!
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From: "scott yow(Redacted sender "syow13" for DMARC)"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 1/29/19 4:12 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: performance hobbies kits
i reported / escalated to PayPal
On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Ralovley (Redacted sender "Ralovley" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Time get my money back!
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From: "scott yow(Redacted sender "syow13" for DMARC)"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 1/29/19 3:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: performance hobbies kits
nope… and i left another message monday
On Jan 29, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Ralovley (Redacted sender "Ralovley" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Has anybody heard anything!?
Rod
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From: James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 1/23/19 4:07 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: TCC chat <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: performance hobbies kits
Hey guys, did anyone get anything?
I've sent him several emails and called and left messages 3x!!!
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:24 AM Ralovley <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yes I am also awaiting the Pro 98 kit along with Lowell!
I emailed him a few times and has said shipping next week! Next week has
now been 3 times!
Rod
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From: James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 1/17/19 8:54 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: TCC chat <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [tccrockets] Re: performance hobbies kits
Yes, I share your frustration - that really sucks - and I am really
surprised. Ken is a straight shooter and I don't understand WTF - I
would still buy stuff from him so I can only figure something bad
happened.
I am not sure if it's any consolation, but PR Components from Curtis
Turner are in high demand and sometimes really hard to get. My Mongoose
150/165 took 8 years to get. The 2/3 Scale Nike's Jack got (with help
from Jack G) took almost that long as well. Rod will tell you about the
Coupler (ISC) debacle that took all year and then when I got the coupler
it was the wrong frigging size.
Gloria Robinson and Mike Stoop have a better relationship with Curtis
because they MOVE product (and fast) so I can only gather that Curtis
sent stuff to them before he did Kennison...
Anyhow, don't crucify him, he is the only other game left in town
(besides AMW/Madcow) getting high-end stuff.
I will follow up today...
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:49 AM scott yow <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Long lead times / etc aren’t really what bothers me… heck we all know
sometimes we have to wait 6 months to get the right loads we want ;)
Rocketry isn’t much of an ASAP hobby and we need patience….
What is confusing and frustrating is the lack of communication… even a
simple blast mailer to all the order holders explaining that there are
component supply issues and he is doing the best he can, but is asking
for a bit of patience…..
I have left 3 emails and 3 voice messages and have not heard anything
back.. to be honest i was starting to wonder if he was OK or if there
was some sort of other (maybe personal?) issue going on…
On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:40 AM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hey Guys,
What I do know is that after Black Friday, it seems Curtis shipped all
of his stuff to Madcow and sidelined Ken!
Some of you guys may know that it takes a long time to get stuff from
Curtis, but his components are usually second to none.
Anyhow, besides Gloria/Robert, and Madcow, he is the only person that
gets Performance Rocketry (Curtis Turner) kits;
in fact, he gets some items from Curtis you general won't find anywhere
else (like P98 and the Boat-tail ARCAS, 1/2 Scale Patriot, etc).
I've bought a lot of stuff from Ken over the years, I'm really
surprised about this since he is reliable and dependable and can
vouch for him - I never would have sent those items to the list if they
were not legit - unfortunately it looks like some are long lead-time
items.
I put a call in to him and will talk to him later today and keep you
posted.
-James
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:18 AM Toby Vanderbeek
<tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I bought the Performer 98 when it was announced on sale in
mid-December. That's a month ago and I don't see a single email
communication about status, expected shipping date, etc. I understand
that most rocket companies are single person or very small but that
doesn't mean that customer service should be absent.
Regards,
Toby Vanderbeek
tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tobyvanderbeek@xxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:12 AM mtnbikrmax1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mtnbikrmax1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I have been waiting for 5 weeks and am beyond pissed. This is my level
3 Project. I have everything else except the rocket. I wanted to do a
test flight on March 1st but not gonna happen. This is very
unprofessional and will never order from him again. John V. NAR# 90787
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:35, shawn stephens
<shawn.stephens4@xxxxxxx <mailto:shawn.stephens4@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Some of you are affected by this and, others are not. Basically if you
didnt order a kit from them please ignore this message!
For all the other kids wondering where the "F" your kit(s) are at,
this is the last emails I have had with Ken ( read from bottom to top ):
Ok, we are all wondering what is the delay? We were under the
impression you had all these kits in stock, was that not the case?
Will my kit be shipped on Monday?
thanks
shawn
On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 5:09:32 AM PST, Kennesson Allen
<kensrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kensrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Shawn,
It looks like next week for the Nike Tomahawk kits.
Orders are currently bring filled for ARCAS and Performer 98’s.
I’ll send you tracking info as soon as your order is shipped.
Thank you!
Ken
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On Jan 17, 2019, at 2:03 AM, shawn stephens <shawn.stephens4@xxxxxxx
<mailto:shawn.stephens4@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Good Morning Ken,
Just checking in with you to see if your still on schedule to ship out
my kit (Nike Tomahawk) this week. Also, a few other guys from the TCC
Rocketry club was wondering what the status was on their kits (Rod
Lovely, Scott Yow ) and a few other I cant remember. Launch season is
upon us and we're all ready to build and fly.
thanks
shawn