then why on earth would you re wire it for use of 5 relays and a flasher...that's what some dude told me to do on the samba, which is stupid if you can buy the 9 prong relay Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:09 -0400 From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay Sure, just like getting a master cylinder. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 11:27 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay yep, J is the one, can you still get the 9 prong 68-69 only relay? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:58:14 -0500 From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay with your bus being a BAY window.... You have 4 way lights which makes it easier. If you're talking about Item "J" on this diagram http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/baybus_6869a.jpg then you'll need to replace it or rewire your turnsignal switch and get a generic flasher. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 8:00 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] blinker relay is there an aftermarket relay that i could get at my FLAPS that would replace the factory 68-69 flasher relay on my bus??? evidently i was about a millimeter away from having an electric fire on top of the engine fire that day. there is a quarter size hole melted in the middle of the relay. the fuse was melted to the fuse panel as well. but i took care of that problem, no wire damage though, thank god. evidently turning on the flashers when you have nothing but exposed wires in the back isn't a good idea, it can cause eletrical shorts. so, is there an aftermarket relay out there? if so what's the part number? if not is it a common thing that my vw store might have? Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join