This is why when the Vanagon hits 25 years old,(when I don't have to deal with inspections any more) I'm removing the fuel injection and going with good old fashioned carbs. I'm tired of fighting the out-dated electronics of the Digijet injection. I know everyone says to go with a Megasquirt but I'm not good with electronics. I see even Chuck has problems with Megasquirt in his car. Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;} .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } .ExternalClass {font-family:Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;} .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} .ExternalClass {font-family:Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;} .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} I was joking... You need one Flasher, your switch, +12V +12V ---> Flasher ----> Switch (Positive In lead) -----> Left Front/Left Rear turnsignal tied ---> Ground |_ indicator bulb |-----> Right Front/Right Rear turnsignal tied ---> Ground Since you have 4 way circuits your brake lights are on a different circuit unlike earlier busses and bugs. Therefore you can just tie your turnsignals together at the switch. You can use a 1 to 2 way spade splitter (autozone, electronics store) . You have to remember in the 60s when your bus was engineered, components at an electronics level were still limited to vaccum tubes, transistors and resistors. ICs, diodes (in their present form) were all relatively new. That's why I laugh at folks who hunt for 68 - up Type 3 EFI boxes.... blah.. Unless you have an NOS 7 pin, forget it. Nothing like 40 year old electronics... If you'll excuse me I now have to adjust my rabbit ears. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 12:13 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay then why on earth would you re wire it for use of 5 relays and a flasher...that's what some dude told me to do on the samba, which is stupid if you can buy the 9 prong relay --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:09 -0400 From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay Sure, just like getting a master cylinder. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 11:27 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay yep, J is the one, can you still get the 9 prong 68-69 only relay? --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:58:14 -0500 From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay with your bus being a BAY window.... You have 4 way lights which makes it easier. If you're talking about Item "J" on this diagram http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/baybus_6869a.jpg then you'll need to replace it or rewire your turnsignal switch and get a generic flasher. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 8:00 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] blinker relay is there an aftermarket relay that i could get at my FLAPS that would replace the factory 68-69 flasher relay on my bus??? evidently i was about a millimeter away from having an electric fire on top of the engine fire that day. there is a quarter size hole melted in the middle of the relay. the fuse was melted to the fuse panel as well. but i took care of that problem, no wire damage though, thank god. evidently turning on the flashers when you have nothing but exposed wires in the back isn't a good idea, it can cause eletrical shorts. so, is there an aftermarket relay out there? if so what's the part number? if not is it a common thing that my vw store might have? --------------------------------- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! --------------------------------- Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. --------------------------------- Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. Learn more.