yep, J is the one, can you still get the 9 prong 68-69 only relay? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:58:14 -0500 From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: blinker relay with your bus being a BAY window.... You have 4 way lights which makes it easier. If you're talking about Item "J" on this diagram http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/baybus_6869a.jpg then you'll need to replace it or rewire your turnsignal switch and get a generic flasher. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Denning Sent: Mar 14, 2008 8:00 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] blinker relay is there an aftermarket relay that i could get at my FLAPS that would replace the factory 68-69 flasher relay on my bus??? evidently i was about a millimeter away from having an electric fire on top of the engine fire that day. there is a quarter size hole melted in the middle of the relay. the fuse was melted to the fuse panel as well. but i took care of that problem, no wire damage though, thank god. evidently turning on the flashers when you have nothing but exposed wires in the back isn't a good idea, it can cause eletrical shorts. so, is there an aftermarket relay out there? if so what's the part number? if not is it a common thing that my vw store might have? Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/