[tcb] Re: Why Do You Suppose My Bus Suddenly Hates Starting in the Morning?

  • From: "chuck" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:22:52 -0600

No carbs, fix you fueler.It is a much more efficent system than carbs.Carbs 
have problems too.get the manuel and study it.Especialy the  cold start section.
  The cold start problems are usually associated with the left handed 
zipnglizry.It will only be actvated when the gorotious alnatonor beads are 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kelly dosch 
  To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:39 PM
  Subject: [tcb] Re: Why Do You Suppose My Bus Suddenly Hates Starting in the 

          Oh tell me about it. I was so tempted to slap a carb on this thing 
when I got it. 

        --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:

          From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
          Subject: [tcb] Re: Why Do You Suppose My Bus Suddenly Hates Starting 
in the Morning?
          To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 9:49 AM

          Ya know, I did pretty good with Fred’s points answer and, feeling 
confident, I read about Kelly’s problem until it got into fuel injectors and 
thermo time switch. It might as well be about subflappable gindoos and 
adjustable gorotious alnatonor beads.

          Chuck says Murray is a tractor, and I love it that way.

          From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Justin Wilt
          Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:36 AM
          To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [tcb] Re: Why Do You Suppose My Bus Suddenly Hates Starting 
in the Morning?

          I could be wrong but it sounds like you may have a problem with the 
cold start injector or thermo time switch.  The F.I engines are notorious for 
bad cylinder head temp sensors as well.  I would try shooting some starting 
fluid in the air cleaner when the engine is cold.  If it starts right up and 
dies then lack of fuel is your problem.

          On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:20 AM, kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> 

                It's a 1979 Campmobile Deluxe, (2.0L?) F.I.. I just got it and 
am not positive what engine it is but it is all original if that helps. It only 
has 74,000 miles on it. It was just rebuilt about 600 miles ago at a VW 
dealership in Austin. The work was done with love by friends of mine and they 
really gave it the royal treatment, sparing no expense. 
                  It ran like a top until about 2.5 weeks ago. It just kept 
getting harder and harder to start in the morning. Now It takes no less than 
about ten minutes to start. I turn the key about 20 times, feeling my ulcer 
grow as my starter slowly burns up. 
                  It just goes whir-whir-whir- plubba-plubba-start-PSYCH! 
Stall. And I crank it again and again and again. Each time it gets closer and 
closer to starting and running until it finally fires up. I then have to keep 
it revved a bit for a while or it will stall. 
                  Once it is warmed up it runs like a Swiss watch. I can drive 
it to the grocery store and when I get out it will fire right up because it is 
still warm. And it seems like, when it won't start in the morning, that I am 
just warming up the engine by cranking the starter for twenty minutes and that 
is why it finally goes. 
                  I can't blame the cooler temps we have been having lately 
because I have started it on cold days before and it fired right up. 
                  It is a brand new VW battery, basically brand new everything! 
I even disconnected the battery and charged it, hooked it back up and it made 
no difference. Just making sure it wasn't the battery. 
                  Then one day I put a heat lamp on the engine for a few hours 
to rule out the possibility of it just not wanting to start on cold days. No 
                  Then I put a bottle of fuel dry in it in case I had water in 
the lines. That was yesterday and I think it did start just a bit easier today, 
but I have driven it 100 miles with this additive. I think that should have 
simply fixed it or not by now, no? 
                  I just don't get it. Almost everything on the engine is new. 
Besides the engine itself. Which was rebuilt at the holiest of VW sources,(the 
VW dealership- and they do not play)  and it had low miles to start with. 
                  I think the key to this mystery is the fact that it fires 
right up every time as long as it is warm, but a cold morning start is hell on 
the starter and battery. 
                  And remember, just a couple weeks ago it started just fine on 
cold 30* days. 
                  Any thoughts? 
                  Thank you so much for your time.  Kelly 

          Justin Wilt

          Post Oak Motorcars
          Rolls Royce Motorcars Houston
          Bentley Houston

          1530 West Loop South
          Houston TX 77095 USA



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