Speaking of a bazillion dollars. I thought that's what those P-wagen
brakes cost. Have you priced replacement parts on those things. Just
jealous. Would love to have a set of early 356 brakes for oval just for
the old school cool. Used to be the way (in the 50s) to go to stop your
hopped up VW. But the cost now. Outta sight baby. You think old VW parts
are expensive. Talk to some early Porsche restorers.
At 09:52 AM 7/28/2006, you wrote:
Humm, Aerodynamic qualities?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient
A smooth brick has a coefficient of 2.1, a VW Bus about .45...
A bazillion dollars for disc brakes? Pishaw! Do your homework and your shopping and
you can come out inexpensively. Frankly, since most of the braking effort is on the front wheels
go with fronts first. If you have a Ball Joint Bus (68-up) spindles can interchange from some years and
with a little bone yard hunting you can come up with a solution..
Now, I've acquired a set of 356B brakes for my 54 Barndoor. Dual wheel cylinders, Aluminum Drums (Steel inserts).... That's pimping. You haven't lived until you've tried to stop a Barndoor with single front 22mm wheel cylinders on a single circuit master.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 9:18 PM
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [tcb] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?
>
>Again, we are talking about going 75 MPH in a thing that has absolutely no
>aerodynamic qualities, and unless you spend a bazillion dollars for disk
>brakes, will not stop worth a f%#k and even if you spend all your money on
>brakes it will still roll in a sharp turn, or even gradual turns.
>
>Before I got a bus to fix up, I was wanting a 1956 Ford F-100. I would have
>dropped a Thunderbird 272 with a progressive Tri-Power and overdrive switch
>under the accelerator in it. It's what I had in High School. That car would
>actually lift a few inches and press you into your seat when you punched it
>and dropped a half a gear going 45. ( Later in life I used it for moving
>goats and carrying firewood). That was a go-fast.
>
>A Volkswagen bus is a Volkswagen bus. 80 tops.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lonnie Bergman" <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:47 PM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine
>in a Westy?
>
>
>> If anyone is serious about a corvair power train, let me know. I have a
>> guy
>> here trying to buy my buggy that has a buggy on a corvair chassis.
>> Complete
>> eng and auto tranny.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Dan Martin
>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:44 PM
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tcb] [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in
>> a
>> Westy?
>>
>> I think a cool running reliable 100 HP bay would be sweet!
>> This guy used a Powerglide:
>>
>> http://www.type2.com/library/enginem/corvair.htm
>>
>> I think a automatic transmission would be cool too, might as well run
>> a air conditioner and cruise control!
>> And Megasquirt!
>>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Bob Perring wrote:
>>
>>> A guy that does Corvair engine to VW vehicle conversions out in
>>> California is a ham radio buddy of mine. I have spoke to him about
>>> it, and he swears that the results are awesome.
>>>
>>> At 17:20 7/27/2006, you wrote:
>>>> Kennedy still makes adapters.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.kennedyeng.com/index.htm>http://www.kennedyeng.com/
>>>> index.htm
>>>>
>>>> Clarke's makes bay kits and you get the corvair trans.:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?
>>>> function=goto&catalog=SPECIALTY§ion=OTTO&page=OTTO-44
>>>>
>>>> There a couple guys on the type 2 list that run the conversion.
>>>> A friend of mine has 6 corvairs, He says corvair engines and parts
>>>> are not too hard to find.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:17 PM, JKi7886155@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been reading, with interest, everyone's thoughts about
>>>>> engine size, performance options, etc. My two (2) beetles (one 74
>>>>> sedan and one 79 Super convertible) both have MoFoCo (Milwaukee)
>>>>> built 1776 cc "Streetwise" motors with mild cams, lightened
>>>>> flywheels and dual Webers. Both engines have hydraulic valve
>>>>> lifters and I couldn't be happier the way they perform around
>>>>> town or on the road. I normally cruise around 70 mph. At that
>>>>> speed, the VDO tachometer in my sedan reads around 4000 rpm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the late 60's and early 70' s I had a 61 Westy and one
>>>>> time I towed a fairly heavy trailer with two (2) motorcycles from
>>>>> Houston to Oklahoma, to camp with a friend. Uphill, on the
>>>>> freeways the original stock engine had all it could do to top
>>>>> hills at 25 mph. Drivers behind me nearly wore out their horns.
>>>>> After that trip I decided something had to change.
>>>>>
>>>>> I picked up a Corvair 140 H.P. engine, bought a Crown conversion
>>>>> kit and made the engine swap. Suddenly, I could easily dust my
>>>>> friend's Porche at intersections but, the engine was screaming at
>>>>> 65-70 mph on the highway. I changed the rear end ratio and
>>>>> suddenly I could cruise right along with the new bay windows, in
>>>>> the 65-70 mph range and, it still had plenty of punch. The
>>>>> package proved to be very dependable,. but the steering at 70 mph
>>>>> was so quick it felt like driving a go-kart.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold the car to purchase my first house in around '73 but, now
>>>>> I sure wish I had kept it. If you want performance that's sure
>>>>> one way to get it, although 6 cylinder 140 H.P. Corvair engines,
>>>>> much less Crown adapters, are getting rare these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 7/27/06 9:57:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>> mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>>>>> I agree that a Bus needs more torque, but horsepower is needed to
>>>>> maintain highway speeds. I have never had any problems with a
>>>>> 1641 running hot. I use the stock offset cooler and super cool
>>>>> tins and maintain 190 to 205 degree's in my 70 vert with the top
>>>>> down blocking the air coming off the top of the car. I'm not a
>>>>> big fan of dual carbs, my opinion is a good 2 barrel progressive
>>>>> is all you need. I had a 1641 in a 65 single cab with reduction
>>>>> boxes with the afore mentioned setup and routinely got 28 to 32 mpg.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I think what he is saying is for the minimal gain you get from
>>>>> increasing from stock to 1641, he thinks it would be better to
>>>>> install duel carbs and a header. The problem is, increasing
>>>>> displacement by increasing the bore will add horsepower, what a bus
>>>>> needs is more torque. To increase the torque of a VW engine the
>>>>> easiest way is to install a longer stroke crank. The cranks are
>>>>> expensive. Their use generates more heat. So most people add a oil
>>>>> cooler/fan and filter. I am afraid by the time I add duel carbs,
>>>>> header, stroker crank (why add a little stroke?), oil cooler and
>>>>> plumbing I will not be able stop the big heavy beast and I still
>>>>> will
>>>>> not be going fast enough to impress the kids in the high rev tuners.
>>>>> But at least I will get to buy a lot more gas.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Trey Jung wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > John Connolly sent me this as I was talking to him about a 1641
>>>>> > with the single Weber...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thoughts?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Trey
>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Connolly, Aircooled.Net"
>>>>> > <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <type2@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:41 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [T2] Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?
>>>>> >> keyword2=fsk0060
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> is a far better choice. The 30mm venturis will give more power
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> run
>>>>> >> cooler then the supplied 27mm venturis.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Read about a bus install at
>>>>> >> http://waitresses.servebeer.com:81/vwpage/35pdsit/35pdsit.htm
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> John
>>>>> >> Aircooled.Net Inc.
>>>>> >>
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