[tcb] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?

  • From: Bob Perring <perring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:21:49 -0500

........ and for stopping,
those big concrete leggo blocks at the exits and interchanges, or on the side of the road, work well, too.


At 21:18 7/27/2006, you wrote:

Again, we are talking about going 75 MPH in a thing that has absolutely no aerodynamic qualities, and unless you spend a bazillion dollars for disk brakes, will not stop worth a f%#k and even if you spend all your money on brakes it will still roll in a sharp turn, or even gradual turns.

Before I got a bus to fix up, I was wanting a 1956 Ford F-100. I would have dropped a Thunderbird 272 with a progressive Tri-Power and overdrive switch under the accelerator in it. It's what I had in High School. That car would actually lift a few inches and press you into your seat when you punched it and dropped a half a gear going 45. ( Later in life I used it for moving goats and carrying firewood). That was a go-fast.

A Volkswagen bus is a Volkswagen bus. 80 tops.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie Bergman" <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?



If anyone is serious about a corvair power train, let me know. I have a guy
here trying to buy my buggy that has a buggy on a corvair chassis. Complete
eng and auto tranny.

-----Original Message-----
From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dan Martin
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:44 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] [Suspected Spam] Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a
Westy?

I think a cool running reliable 100 HP bay would be sweet!
This guy used a Powerglide:

http://www.type2.com/library/enginem/corvair.htm

I think a automatic transmission would be cool too, might as well run
a air conditioner and cruise control!
And Megasquirt!


On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Bob Perring wrote:

A guy that does Corvair engine to VW vehicle conversions out in
California is a ham radio buddy of mine. I have spoke to him about
it, and he swears that the results are awesome.

At 17:20 7/27/2006, you wrote:
Kennedy still makes adapters.

<http://www.kennedyeng.com/index.htm>http://www.kennedyeng.com/
index.htm

Clarke's makes bay kits and you get the corvair trans.:

http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?
function=goto&catalog=SPECIALTY&section=OTTO&page=OTTO-44

There a couple guys on the type 2 list that run the conversion.
A friend of mine has 6 corvairs, He says corvair engines and parts
are not too hard to find.



On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:17 PM, JKi7886155@xxxxxxx wrote:

I have been reading, with interest, everyone's thoughts about
engine size, performance options, etc. My two (2) beetles (one 74
sedan and one 79 Super convertible) both have MoFoCo (Milwaukee)
built 1776 cc "Streetwise" motors with mild cams, lightened
flywheels and dual Webers. Both engines have hydraulic valve
lifters and I couldn't be happier the way they perform around
town or on the road. I normally cruise around 70 mph. At that
speed, the VDO tachometer in my sedan reads around 4000 rpm.

Back in the late 60's and early 70' s I had a 61 Westy and one
time I towed a fairly heavy trailer with two (2) motorcycles from
Houston to Oklahoma, to camp with a friend. Uphill, on the
freeways the original stock engine had all it could do to top
hills at 25 mph. Drivers behind me nearly wore out their horns.
After that trip I decided something had to change.

I picked up a Corvair 140 H.P. engine, bought a Crown conversion
kit and made the engine swap. Suddenly, I could easily dust my
friend's Porche at intersections but, the engine was screaming at
65-70 mph on the highway. I changed the rear end ratio and
suddenly I could cruise right along with the new bay windows, in
the 65-70 mph range and, it still had plenty of punch. The
package proved to be very dependable,. but the steering at 70 mph
was so quick it felt like driving a go-kart.

I sold the car to purchase my first house in around '73 but, now
I sure wish I had kept it. If you want performance that's sure
one way to get it, although 6 cylinder 140 H.P. Corvair engines,
much less Crown adapters, are getting rare these days.

Jack

In a message dated 7/27/06 9:57:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I agree that a Bus needs more torque, but horsepower is needed to
maintain highway speeds. I have never had any problems with a
1641 running hot. I use the stock offset cooler and super cool
tins and maintain 190 to 205 degree's in my 70 vert with the top
down blocking the air coming off the top of the car. I'm not a
big fan of dual carbs, my opinion is a good 2 barrel progressive
is all you need. I had a 1641 in a 65 single cab with reduction
boxes with the afore mentioned setup and routinely got 28 to 32 mpg.

Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I think what he is saying is for the minimal gain you get from
increasing from stock to 1641, he thinks it would be better to
install duel carbs and a header. The problem is, increasing
displacement by increasing the bore will add horsepower, what a bus
needs is more torque. To increase the torque of a VW engine the
easiest way is to install a longer stroke crank. The cranks are
expensive. Their use generates more heat. So most people add a oil
cooler/fan and filter. I am afraid by the time I add duel carbs,
header, stroker crank (why add a little stroke?), oil cooler and
plumbing I will not be able stop the big heavy beast and I still
will
not be going fast enough to impress the kids in the high rev tuners.
But at least I will get to buy a lot more gas.

On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Trey Jung wrote:

> John Connolly sent me this as I was talking to him about a 1641
> with the single Weber...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Trey
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Connolly, Aircooled.Net"
> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <type2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [T2] Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?
>
>
>> http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?
>> keyword2=fsk0060
>>
>> is a far better choice. The 30mm venturis will give more power
and
>> run
>> cooler then the supplied 27mm venturis.
>>
>> Read about a bus install at
>> http://waitresses.servebeer.com:81/vwpage/35pdsit/35pdsit.htm
>>
>> John
>> Aircooled.Net Inc.
>>
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