Nobody walks around East Berlin comrade. -- Sent from my Palm Pre James Dwan wrote: I was walking around East Berlin in '89 and it was just creepy to see only one kind of car in the whole city. Parking lots full of identical cars in only 4 different colors. I remember seeing a photo in Stars & Stripes of one that was thrown into a dumpster a couple of years later. When they broke down people just left them on the side of the autobahn --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Question about glass To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:45 PM I will just buy 10 of them and swap parts. Yes I have heard that too about the organic components. They were aircooled however and they smoked worse than Selma Diamond. -- Sent from my Palm Pre James Dwan wrote: Good luck getting parts...oh I forgot wasn't the suspension made of wood and leather? --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Question about glass To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:29 PM I'm selling everything and buying a Trabant. -- Sent from my Palm Pre wuzmop@xxxxxxx wrote: All this confusion about bus info makes one want to get into super beetles! Ok, maybe not. -----Original Message----- From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 9:02 am Subject: [tcb] Re: Question about glass So the latch/track would be different because of the holes in the glass then. Interesting. I guess the slider track would be different for Sigla or Sekurit but not necessarily made by Sigla. Thanks! --- On Fri, 12/4/09, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Question about glass To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:38 AM Hmm! I am not an expert on VW glass: But, there was a period around 58-61 or so that VW put laminate glass in the side windows of the Type II. This was apparently made by Sigla glass. Most VWs, busses included, have tempered glass (non-sigla) including the windshield for all markets other than the US where tempered glass for windshields is not legal. For whatever reason for some busses for some short period of time VW put laminate (non-tempered) glass in the side windows. For the driver and passenger door sliding glass with non-tempered laminate glass there are no holes cut through the laminate for the slider latch. The slider is different. It fits up beside the glass, not through it, and is mounted on a slider bar that fits under the window. Maybe Terry or Will can chime in. I know Terry has at least one bus with the Sigla slider glass because I sold him one slider latch mounted on the slider bar for his bus. There are also several threads on the Samba re: the Sigla glass and the slider bar that goes with them. Apparently you cannot drill a hole through laminate glass and that is the reason for the uniques type of catch arrangement on these windows. Personally I am a fan of tempered glass and have never understood the US's rationale for the requirement of laminate glass. I think the tempered is much safer. And apparently the rest of the world agrees with me. --- On Thu, 12/3/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Question about glass To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:39 PM Sigla made glass not slider tracks right? I have found an ad that says Late Logo slider Glass With SIGLA Track. Is there such a thing? I don't need a track I need the Sigla glass. Thanks! James