I honestly think that you will be smart to talk to Wolfgang. They actually make them, so Steve, the owner has to stand by them. I bought Izzie's, but they showed rust. They all leak, but Izzie's may leak less 'cuz they have a a protruding edge that may help with leaking. Wolfgang's are flat. The other Safari maker is Creative Engineering, from the UK. They have the protrusion, also. It's all going to cost you $700.00. But I'll tell you, when you are driving in 100 degree temps and you just crack these babies you will be happy you paid the money ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred McDonald To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [tcb] Look'n for Safari's I am looking for crome safari windows for by 67 westie and also some 14 inch fuchs wheels. Any ideas?