Denis: 63 was first year for the "flared" fender wells on the rear. 62s and earlier had straight metal there and there is less clearance between fender well and tire making it difficult to change the rear wheel with a larger tire. ________________________________ From: Denis <coocoo@xxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 8:31:02 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers Murray has 185 60 15s. I don’t know if that adds anything to the discussion. From: Julie Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:00 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers Yes Sonne is a '60. Um, I stole all of the running gear from my '66. I know my tranny is a freeway flyer and I do still have my gear reduction boxes. As for the size of nuts, being a girl I don't know big from small. On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:52 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sonne is a 60 model, right? Early bus has no lip on the fender well and much less space between fender and the brake drum than on the 64-67 busses. Anything bigger than stock is not easy to get in there. It's possible to go slightly bigger than stock 6:40X15 but it isn't easy to mount the wheel on the brake drum. Just not enough clearance with the fender. And if you have a big nut tranny in it the brake drums are a bit wider than the original small nut tranny and that also uses up space. And I do hope you are going to run a big nut tranny cause you are going to take forever to get to Shasta if running the gear ratios in the small nut. > > > > ________________________________ From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> >To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 6:30:35 PM >Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers > > >Yes Sonne is the DC. But I know someone who is on this list that has Grabbers >on his Bus and he does not remember having trouble getting them on and Shasta >guys use them and they all have Splits. > > >On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:05 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >Which bus is Sonne. If the DC, yep, you have trouble fitting tires much >larger >than stock under the fender wells of a split bus. Something you have to >consider; unless of course you wish to cut out the fender wells, in which case >you will be banned permanently from all things splitty. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 3:33:02 PM >>Subject: [tcb] BFGs vs. Grabbers >> >>I have been looking into buying the tires for Sonne. Some Shasta guys say >>Grabbers and some say BFGs. I have Grabbers on Wieder (zebra) and love them! >>The BFGs are smaller than the Grabbers but have better load rating. BFGs D-8 >>ply >>and Grabbers C-6 ply. I love how the Grabbers look and fear the BFGs won't >>look >>as tough. Grabbers 27/8.50R14 (216/76R14) BFGs 195/74/R14 (195/75R14) BFGs >>are >>1.41" smaller in diameter/.83" smaller in width/4.43" smaller in >>circumference/.71" shorter in sidewall height. Currently my Grabbers >>(borrowed >>from Wieder) are not fitting in on the rear of Sonne. My metal guy blames the >>WW >>metal pieces being off, I am not so sure of that. So maybe BFGs will fit >>without re-doing the metal work. Grabbers are cheaper and I imagine will >>look >>tougher being that they are larger and will give Sonne more clearance. I am >>thinking of staying with Grabbers. What do you guys think? >> >>