[tcb] Re: Anyone ever heard or seen this before? is it snakeoil ?

  • From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:02:14 -0600

doesn't oil eat up some rubber hoses? so couldn't you risk damaging fuel lines 
by doing this? it's just like folks saying to put some acetone in your fuel 
line...it increases  your fuel mileage if the fluid is not supposed to go in 
that hole then there might be some problems further on down the road :0

> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:55:38 -0800
> From: nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Anyone  ever heard or seen this before? is it snakeoil ?
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> One of my stepdad's good old boyz buddies said he
> dumped a cup of tranny oil in the tank to lube to top
> end every now and then...Thoughts on this?  Anyone
> heard of anything similar?
> --- sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Probably not worth the cost.  If you want some upper
> > cylinder lube dump some oil in the gas tank.
> > 
> > Mark Sawyer <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  So what
> > is the answer from the more experienced (I wasn't
> > going to say older) VWers about whether the oiler is
> > a good idea or not??? 
> > 
> > sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
> > In some cases tight is good but not in VW valve
> > adjustment.
> > 
> > Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:   
> >    .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  } 
> > body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
> > FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    everytime i run my valves i
> > notice hardley any difference in the feeler gauge
> > from what they were set on...perhaps this is because
> > i do it about once a month (600 miles tops). i was a
> > bit concerned with that untill i was told that is a
> > good thing that a tight valve is the no bueno type
> > situation
> > 
> >     
> > ---------------------------------
> >   Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:19:25 -0800
> > From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Anyone ever heard or seen this
> > before? is it snakeoil ?
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> >   Where there are engineers there are always lots of
> > opinions.  Both Steve and Denis should be able to
> > speak with experience on trashed valves.
> >    
> >   Will's right about watching the adjustment; and if
> > one keeps getting tight on you it's a darn good idea
> > to pull the head before catastrophe happens.  I used
> > to have a VW powered airplane (Evans VP-1) and after
> > every 50 or so hours of flying time I would yank the
> > heads and replace all exhaust valves.
> > 
> > Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   The kit is similar to the Marvel oiler. The Marvel
> > oiler in my opinion
> > has better control but top end cylinder lubrication
> > is always a good
> > thing. Water injection will also give you similar
> > results but it's more
> > difficult to control.
> > 
> > It definitely helps a Judson Engine stay alive but I
> > don't know if I
> > agree about all of the other statements they make in
> > their ad.
> > 
> > >> Exhaust valve seat recession can result, a 
> > >> condition where valve and seat materials adhere
> > to and erode each
> > >> other, with the valve migrating up 
> > >> into the head.
> > 
> > If you severly overheat the engine or have crappy
> > heads or valve work
> > done this can also happen which is more common.
> > Running the engine
> > lean, bad timing or heavy loads all contribute to
> > the heat issue. The
> > 10% Ethanol in Gas doesn't help either since it
> > leans out the mixture.
> > 
> > >> As this occurs, valve stem to rocker tip
> > clearance is reduced. If
> > >> this clearance reduces 
> > >> to zero, the valve no longer closes, resulting in
> > a burned valve. 
> > 
> > That's why you adjust your valves... Valves have
> > more of a tendancy to
> > stretch from fatigue. Any time you have a valve
> > "tighten up" it is a
> > cause for concern since normally the clearance
> > should stay relatively
> > the same.
> > 
> > If you run moly pushrods you should run them "loose
> > zero" since the
> > engine expands as it warms up. Steel doesn't expand
> > like aluminum does.
> > 
> > Any valve failure can occur if the parts are
> > questionable. Like reusing
> > exhaust valves which result in the most damaging
> > catastrophies. Even if
> > you have great parts it can happen. I lost a seat in
> > a set of CB Street
> > Eliminators after 1200 miles on the engine. I also
> > know of another
> > person who had two valve guides come loose and the
> > seating area cracked
> > around the guides on a brand new set of CB heads
> > after 900 miles on the
> > heads. This isn't inexpensive stuff either... 
> > 
> > My rule of thumb on a street engine is every 35-40K
> > miles the heads come
> > off and the exhaust valves are replaced along with a
> > valve job.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 02:46 -0600, Trey Jung wrote:
> > > 
> > > http://www.ampcolubes.com./vw.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There's an ad on thesamba.com too .......... Just
> > wondering....
> > > 
> > > Trey
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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