Hi Neil. Thanks for the explanation. I was comparing the price to the Access which is advertised for £359 from Wayfinder them selves. I think that makes the price over ten times more than the cost of the WFN one year license. I do realise that WFA is more geared for the blind user and I was trying to point out that if someone has some useful vision then they could get away from using WFN. What I mean by this is if the low vision user like me can see to tell which way to turn at the next turning then it's a product which may well be suitable for some low vision users.Talks still does the bulk of the work by reading the guide view and the name of the next turning. This product works for me and may not for another low vision user. I my self am hoping to purchase Access in the near future as I like the feature where you are told of your next crossing and you don't have to be in navigation mode for that.Out of both products I would prefer Access but WFN is serving my navigation needs now without a huge struggle. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Barnfather To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: re using the maps facility as a gprs system with talks. Saqib, You claim Access is 8 times the cost of Navigator, taking your £40 for Navigator this to me is only a 6th of the cost of Access. Access costing £240. An additional thing to bear in mind is that Talks may work in part with Navigator today, as you've described, however, there's no guarantee of this into the future, Access is developed in conjunction with Nuance and CF, thus it's compatibility is assured. your Navigator's is not. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks List Host TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility and Wayfinder Access dealer / distributor, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox why not use TalkNav today? http://www.talknav.com service@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 04 August 2009 10:52 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: re using the maps facility as a gprs system with talks. Hi. You can always try the Wayfinder Navigator application which is far cheeper than Wayfinder Access. The map will tell you where you are. Talks will read map info and the guide info when navigating. Talks will also read the name of the next turning but you will need to see which way the direction is pointing. The icons are quite large so there isn't a problem there either. If you can't see then switch the female voice on which gives you turn by turn instruction and you'll overcome that obstical. I have used the Maps when out and about and Talks will tell me what road I'm on and if there is a road either side of me I press the right and left arrow to find out the name of that road. Not a bad application for £34. Wayfinder Access is a much more detailed app as you are told of POIs around you and what crossing is around you and what crossing you are approaching. You don't have to be in a navigation mode to use these features. I just don't see the point of paying 8 times more for that piece of info. I can use Loadstone for that and that is for free. With Loadstone you would need to enter all your points of interest and there is no internet connection involved. You just rely on GPS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: re using the maps facility as a gprs system with talks. Hi Chris, Nope, if you want access, you need Wayfinder Access for GPS. All the best Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of christopher huby Sent: Monday 3 August 2009 19:47 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] re using the maps facility as a gprs system with talks. Importance: High Good Evening all is the maps facility on the nokian95 compatible with talks. any help would be much appreciated. Regards Christopher Huby Email: christopher.huby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email2: christopher.huby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile: 07967603395. Skype: christopherhuby1. Twitter: christopherhuby