I'm with Steve on this, the N86 perhaps over the iPhone, the E71 not so for my opinion. I agree the N97 has the chance to do this, but from what I read Nokia have stuff to do to make the Symbian OS better and more stable / responsive before sighted folk consider it a competitor to the iPhone. ---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 01 October 2009 21:44 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks Well I have to confess that I would never use a touch screen device. It's far too fiddly when you need to take notes or numbers when out and about. It may well be usable but not to a degree where one could operate a touch device with confidence and ease. My E71 showers all over the I-Phone all round. I think you know what that term means. -------------------------------------------------- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:15 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > its better than just a touch screen though as has a keyboard too. Its a > real IPhone killer! looking at the N86 and n97 the people at Nokia are > doing some awesome work! And i think the Nuance guys are doing an amazing > job keeping up with this rapidly growing technology and us blind folk have > never had such Accessibility in our pockets! Just imagine someone with > say, a N86 with talks, KNFB & WFA when all fully supported - hello > independence! Go go gadget er um phone?!! Oh neil i know off topic but > will WFA work on the N97 once talks does? > > -original message- > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 01/10/2009 6:53 pm > > Me too Neil. I don't think no matter how good it would be I would ever opt > for a touch screen. But I can see why others might. > > > Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs > Barbara Wilson > M: 07917710779 > T: 02887784046 > E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: creativeeyes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:39 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > > > Barbra, > > > > A different experience, CF divided the screen up, and thus changed the > natural layout of the screen, Talks are keeping it the way it was > intended. > > > > Having said this it will not be the way I go when it does come out, I'm > just more productive with a keypad / keyboard. > > > > > > > > ---Neil Barnfather > > TalkNav > > > > TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized > distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered > direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? > > > > www.talknav.com > > www.wayfinderaccess.com > > Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 > > Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 > > > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson > Sent: 01 October 2009 15:48 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > > > > Neil > > > > Having used an HP iPaq in the past with touch screen, I've never been > impressed. But saying that, it was running Mobile Speak! > > > > > Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs > Barbara Wilson > M: 07917710779 > T: 02887784046 > E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: creativeeyes > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:18 PM > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > > > > Barbra, > > > > Torsten did show a test version, that is pre alpha version at Sight > Village this year in Birmingham, so it will happen, just a matter of when. > > > > The prototype looked good, and they are using the same method as iPhone > in terms of dragging your finger around the screen. > > > > > > > > ---Neil Barnfather > > TalkNav > > > > TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized > distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered > direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? > > > > www.talknav.com > > www.wayfinderaccess.com > > Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 > > Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 > > > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson > Sent: 01 October 2009 12:10 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n97 and talks > > > > Yes Alex and not sure if it ever will as it's mainly touch screen. 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