[talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:52:25 -0000
Hi Eleanor,
Does it open accessibly in JAWS? Can you read it?
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Wednesday 10 December 2008 09:29
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
No Steve, it is a pdf I made myself and comprises both text and image. It
is my tribute to my late Guide Dog Pedro. I suppose I could put it on as a
Word document, and then save as text, only then I guess I would loose my
images of Pedro and my new dog Neela.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
Hi Eleanor,
Does that same PDF open on your PC then? It may be password protected, or
an image.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Wednesday 10 December 2008 09:18
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
Thank you Steve for that. I have managed with Barbra's hellp to save a Word
file as Text and then to be able to open and read it. I thought that was
excellent. Pity about the PDF. I tried and like you say when I went to
open it said, not supported. I would have thought though if Adobie is there
then it would have at least opened and that a sighted person could have a
read it, otherwise why have Adobie reader there? I guess the Adobie Reader
helps people open files on line.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:17 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
Hi Eleanor,
This is because you don't understand the technology behind reading PDF
files. In windows, we have MSAA, Microsoft Active Accessibility. MSAA is
built into all Windows operating systems. Acrobat PDF Reader utilises MSAA
to read PDF files by virtualising the text, putting it into a virtual
buffer.
Your phone is not Microsoft. Your phone also does not have MSAA built into
it. So if your phone does not have MSAA or any kind of accessibility bridge
built into it, then currently, and I say currently, you will no way read PDF
files with your phone in any shape or form.
Nokia have not to date any plans that Nuance know about as far as I am
aware, to add MSAA or any kind of accessibility bridge to phones, but they
might.
This is why I say you will not read them as of today. This may change in
the future, but I am explaining to you the technology as it is here and now.
I hope this helps.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Tuesday 9 December 2008 23:29
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
Thanks Steve, I'll do that but as for the pdf, I'm like a dog with a bone.
If jaws can read pdf and Supernova to, then I am sorry that Talks cannot.
It is not beyond the relms of possabilities.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:20 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Reading whole e-mail at once
Hi Eleanor,
You don't. Just press Talks then the down arrow, which is read to end, bit
like Say All in JAWS.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Tuesday 9 December 2008 19:24
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Reading whole e-mail at once
Hi
When I open an e-mail on my mobile I have to cursor down line by line. Is
there any key I can press for it to read the whole thing without me having
to keep hitting the down arrow.
Eleanor
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