[talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:06:50 +0100
Hi Paul.
Well, I'm on Three and they lock their phones to the network. If your in
contract, they won't let you unlock your handset without forking out the
remainder of your contract length, so if you've signed up to a 20 pound deal
for 12 months and you decide to unlock the phone after two months because your
going away, that's £200 you have to stump up plus a £15 unlocking fee. That's
what I was told and you can probably imagine the language I used to express my
displeasure *smile*.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: All formats
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi there.
As ever, thanks for your help and assistance.
I'll try that site.
The funny thing is that Vodafone don't lock the phone anymore... I have tried
another SIM card in my phone and it definitely works.
They said something about the fact they were told they couldn't lock phones
by ofcom.
So, what do they do instead? Brand the phone so you have to wait for ever
for them to provide their version of the firmware
Cheers anyway.
Paul
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 14 May 2009 18:15
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi Paul.
www.fonefunshop.co.uk do a service for £20 including return post where they
will unbrand your phone and put the original Nokia firmware on it for you. The
procedure isn't complex and I believe for an additional £20 they'll even unlock
it for you which does require specific equipment.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: All formats
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi Ibrahim
I would never have considered it in the past but, am doing so now.
Where would I find such a shop? Market presumably?
Thanks.
Paul
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 14 May 2009 16:27
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi Paul.
You can always rebrand the phone. It doesn't unlock it but it will get you
the original Nokia software. You can either do this yourself (very tricky I
understand if you can't see) or have it done for you by a specialist phone shop.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: All formats
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:12 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
I know SIM free is always best but, if you can't afford to buy the phone
outright then you have to go for contracted phones.
It didn't matter a few years ago because you didn't get firmware updates
in the first place.
I think the next time I get a contract phone, I'll make them sign an
agreement with me <smiles>!
I'll just have to keep on to Vodafone and make the officially respond.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 14 May 2009 15:42
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi Paul,
Or not, in the case of some phones. There is a firmware 31 for the N82
for example, and none of the operators to my knowledge have released it. And
they won't now, because it is discontinued. Sim-free is always best.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats
Sent: Thursday 14 May 2009 15:31
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
I don't think the unlocking of the phone has anything to do with the
performance or what works and doesn't on the phone... In fact, I would be quite
sure of that.
The reason you can't update firmware on the Vodafone or any other branded
phones is the same as it was which is that the networks decide what bits they
want adding or taking away from the firmware release then the phone
manufacturer goes back, makes the changes and at some point in the distant
future, the customer finally gets the update relased.
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: 14 May 2009 15:14
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Vodafone now have their contract phones unlocked but of curse they are
branded. I am of the opinion (and maybe Barbra is too, I do not know) but if a
branded phone is thenunlocked its functionality is not quite the same as prior
to the unlocking.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara Wilson
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Steve, I do agree that the N79 is a lovely phone and works excellently
with TALKS. I just got put off with my faulty one, or more precisely which
Nokia messing me around with it. Also, after they sent it back it had problems
it didn't have when they got it.
Mat, I know people who have used the N85, so it works okay with TALKS.
I too always get phones SIM-Free as I don't like unlocking.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
Hi Matt,
The N97 won't be supported not only because it is touch, but because
it is Symbian Fifth Edition, not Third. Fifth will only be supported when there
are more than one or two phones that use it I would imagine.
The N79 is a lovely phone. I know Barbara will disagree, but I have
had mine a week and it is great. Wifi works fine on my one.
N86 is going to be a good phone when it is out, but if you depend on
operators, you may be unlucky.
I always say the best way to buy a phone is Sim-Free. Then it is
unbranded, and not tampered with by the operator. Expensive yes, but you
usually get a better phone.
Having said that, I got my N79 with T-Mobile, simply because they
offered it to me for free.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Thursday 14 May 2009 14:27
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] N97 and N86?
Hi, I've just checked with T-mobile in the UK and they aren't going
to be getting the N86 sadly. It also doesn't look as if they'll be getting the
N97.
I still can't decide which phone to get! Someone said that the N85 is
also compatible with Talks but it isn't in the list of phones published by
Nuance.
I only hope the N86 will be because the list of accessible phones
that are new or current is getting thinner, has anyone else noticed that? I
know Nokia are bringing out more touch-screen phones, and obviously they're out
for us, but there isn't really a sensible alternative to Talks on a Nokia. The
Windows based phones crash all the time, and the Mobile Speak system isn't the
best in the World, what are we going to do?
I hear that the N97 is unlikely to be supported by Nuance because it
integrates a touch screen as well, but according to Nokia the phone is
completely accessible via the qwerty keyboard so the touch screen isn't
necessary. I wonder if Nuance will rethink that one.
Just interested in what other people think. I had a look at the E71
and absolutely hate it! The keyboard on it is completely stupid!
Matt
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