Hi Paul Sure you can install Talks without sighted help if your up for it and it's especially easier if you've got the date/time already set.... Just get familiar with where Key1 is first but that's usually bottom left when in portrait view so is usually simple enough to find. I love my N97 with talks and i would certainly recommend 5th edition phones if people fancy something new. But best way to experience it is to start playing around with the device..... So to answer your installation question so you can start to play...... I include a very brief guide which I wrote for Eleanor on the list a while ago and also a little podcast which was just a google away - hopefully it all helps (note the podcast is a little old and from a USA perspective but it all pretty much applies still, especially if you've already got the date/time sorted anyway) My brief and a little vague guide..... assuming that you already have the phones date and time set, you install Talks first because it is signed and the TTS is not but Talks will pick up the built in Nokia TTS so it's enough to get you to be able to use the device and get to the place to change this yourself and without sighted help, so as follows - 1. connect phone to PC using cable, upon doing so the phone will beep and ask connection method i.e. PC Suite, Mass storage (also known as Data transfer on some devices) and so on, providing you haven't previously connected the device to the pc in a selection other than PC Suite then PC Suite should be the first choice and already selected so you just press Key1 and all good..... No need for eyes.... 2. using PC and PC Suite select Talks 5 to install as you would be used to, when phone beeps just press key1 and keep pressing key1 (bottom left in portrait view) every few seconds and once Talks starts speaking your done (this occasional press of key1 just accepts the various installation screen options such as storage location for Talks etc but just hitting key1 will do the best install i.e. installing to phone memory which gives the best results) 3. then go to Menu>settings>application manager>installation settings, in here change software installation to "All" instead of "signed" this will ensure Eloquence installs ok as this is not signed like Talks is hence installing Talks first. 4. once done then back out to homescreen using key2, and use PC Suite to select the Eloquence TTS on your PC and install the Eloquence TTS, this time you will have Talks speech guidance using the Nokia TTS 5. reboot phone to ensure Talks fully implemented into the device correctly, then change TTS from the horrible Nokia one to the Eloquence one, you can either go into Talks menu to do this, or use the Talks key (menu key) plus a long slide and hold of the keylock switch on the side to activate switching between TTS engines that are installed (on 5th Ed devices the keylock slide switch doubles as the Talks and Clear key function of mute and TTS switch) Now the podcast, worth a listen just to help my explanation be a little clearer *smiles* - The Podcast is on www.blindcooltech.com and is called Installing Talks Direct download link is http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1368InstallingTalks.mp3 table end Hope this helps Cheers Pete -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] INSTALLING TALKS ON A NOKIA 5800 XPRESS MUSIC From: "Paul Cutress" <pcutress@xxxxxxx> Date: 05/05/2010 1:39 pm Hello List members, I have acquired a nokia 5800 xpress music smartphone. Some of you on this list have used touch screen phones such as the N97 minny, what are your experiences? I would like to be able to install talks5 to this phone. Could someone please advise me the best possible way of doing this with no sight. The correct date and time are already set in the phone, so this is not an issue. If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. All the best