[talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call option

  • From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 01:03:31 +0100

But having said that, it’s also such an intuitive thing one has to wonder why 
it wasn’t implemented several versions back.  It’s not exactly a major piece of 
coding, especially given those keys that are not currently used.  Mind you, to 
be fair I do know that Nuance tend to place groundwork within current versions 
for future development, so programmatically speaking this may not have been 
possible at an earlier time.
 
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Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
 
Hussein.
 
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: 04 April 2010 00:55
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
 
Hussein, I completely agree, it's a great improvement for those of us with 
slider phones.
Cheers
Alex
 
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
Sent: 03 April 2010 23:36
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
 
Hi,
 
Too true, the new time hotkey combination is a lifesaver.  Saves opening the 
slide 20 times a day lol.
 
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Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
 
Hussein.
 
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 03 April 2010 23:32
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
 
Hi Hussein and Pete,
 
First thanks goodness that someone understands what I'm raving about! :)
 
Yes, I figured that this issue is because the telephone app is activated once 
the phone starts ringing. That's why I think that this issue is quite tricky to 
solve. Hence my suggestion to add a "use default audio settings" option to the 
Volume During a Call control. So if Talks is set to "use default audio 
settings" then it will behave like prier versions to Talks 5. This suggestion 
is a workaround until a proper solution  is developed. If I'm honest I can't 
believe that no one noticed this issue during the developing and the beta faze 
for Talks5.
 
Using (Talks + #6), I used to raise up the Talks volume quickly when I'm in a 
noisy environment so when a call comes in I can here the caller's name read by 
Talks. When I'm back home or during the night, as Hussein indeed pointed out, 
it's (Talks + #5) to lower the Talks volume so I don't wake people up when I'm 
checking who's calling before answering. This is only an example. During the 
day I'm on the street, then in a meeting, then in a cafe then to a lecture and 
so on. I'm damned if I will have to go into Audio settings five or six times a 
day just to adjust the Talks volume. Do you see why this is really inconvenient?
 
So please please Talks dealers pass on this Use Default Audio Settings 
suggestion to the Talks developers teem until they find a way to actually 
control the Talks volume just during a call.
 
I've to say before I finish that this Talks release is otherwise a really good 
release. I love the Talks + Call to read the time. Excellent improvement if you 
like me use a slide phone.
 
Sorry for the long post!
 
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:50 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
 
Ah, that makes sense and I should have realised this.  Of course I was thinking 
of only the period the actual call was active rather than the application.  
Silly me!

Thanks,

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Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Hussein.

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of DurDevil
Sent: 03 April 2010 21:29
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option

Hi 

this is because if the phone is ringing i.e a call is coming in then the 
telephone app is activr, same when ending a call, until the phone completely 
ends the telephone app process then Talks will use the telephone app settings. 

The telephone app volume is 5 as default if i recall correctly, this can be 
changed in the talks menu under options i.e the drop down list where you find 
register and licence info, the item is called audio settings. Change it to a 
more prefered default and if you find you need a different volume when in a 
call then you can use talks and number 5 or 6 to manipulate. Have a play in the 
audio settings options and yoo should find the  volume options you are looking 
for as there are options for in a call and outside a call.   

Hth 

Pete 


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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/04/2010 9:08 pm

Hi,
 
It's the same when a call ends.  The volume doesn't switch over immediately.
So, if at night you'll suddenly hear the volume come through really loudly
just after you've hung up.  Hopefully you don't have any light sleepers
nearby!
 
_______________________________________
Have a pleasant day,
 
Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
 
Hussein.
 
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 02 April 2010 13:59
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call
option
 
Well folks. Could anyone then tell me if the same issue happens on your
Nokia models? I'm interested to know what the score is with the N series
models. My original email is below but here's a snap!
 
"The problem is that the Volume During a Call option kicks in immediately
once the phone starts ringing and not after the call is actually answered.
i.e. too quickly." 
 
If I haven't explained the problem well please let me know! :)
 
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- 
Subject: [talks-uk] An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call
option
 
Hello,
 
Using Nokia E66.
 
I have a problem with the new Talks V5 (Volume During a Call) option.
 
The problem is that the Volume During a Call option kicks in immediately
once the phone starts ringing and not after the call is actually answered.
i.e. too quickly. And this is not how it should be I assume.
 
With the new Talks version, when reading the caller's name by pressing soft
key 2 while the phone is ringing, Talks now is using the (Volume During a
Call) level rather than the normal Talks volume level i.e. the (Volume
Outside a Call). This is not how it should be and I can think of few
scenarios where this can cause problems.
 
I suggest that if this issue is tricky to sort out then a workaround could
be to add a (use default) setting to the (Volume During a Call) option. This
setting is to tether the (Volume During a Call) setting to the (Volume
Outside a Call) setting. In other words, the (Use Default) option I'm
suggesting will make Talks behave like older versions in regards to volume
level.
 
Hope I'm making any sense? Please let me know what you think.
 
Cheers,
Amro


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