[talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call option

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:32:17 +0100

Absolutely.
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
From: "Amro Bilal" <Lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/04/2010 12:28 am

Hi,

"the new time hotkey combination is a lifesaver.  Saves opening the slide 20 
times a day".

It does doesn't it? *Smile*

But what do you think of the use default audio settings suggestion thing? :)

A two more quick notes on this topic-

1. I tried Talks 5 on a Nokia N86 today and the same issue with the Volume 
During a Call happens. So it's not the audio chip on the E series phones that 
is causing the trouble it seems.

2. The Mute During a Call option seems to work ok. Talks mutes during the call 
alright and not before. So that makes me wonder why the Volume During a Call 
isn't working as it should. Maybe the telephone application theory isn't 
correct after all?

I hope that Steve or Neil are following this discussion and care to comment.

Cheers,
Amro
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hussein Patwa 
  To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:35 PM
  Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option


  Hi,

   

  Too true, the new time hotkey combination is a lifesaver.  Saves opening the 
slide 20 times a day lol.

   

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  Have a pleasant day,

   

  Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

   

  Hussein.

   

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  From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Amro Bilal
  Sent: 03 April 2010 23:32
  To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option

   

  Hi Hussein and Pete,

   

  First thanks goodness that someone understands what I'm raving about! :)

   

  Yes, I figured that this issue is because the telephone app is activated once 
the phone starts ringing. That's why I think that this issue is quite tricky to 
solve. Hence my suggestion to add a "use default audio settings" option to the 
Volume During a Call control. So if Talks is set to "use default audio 
settings" then it will behave like prier versions to Talks 5. This suggestion 
is a workaround until a proper solution  is developed. If I'm honest I can't 
believe that no one noticed this issue during the developing and the beta faze 
for Talks5.

   

  Using (Talks + #6), I used to raise up the Talks volume quickly when I'm in a 
noisy environment so when a call comes in I can here the caller's name read by 
Talks. When I'm back home or during the night, as Hussein indeed pointed out, 
it's (Talks + #5) to lower the Talks volume so I don't wake people up when I'm 
checking who's calling before answering. This is only an example. During the 
day I'm on the street, then in a meeting, then in a cafe then to a lecture and 
so on. I'm damned if I will have to go into Audio settings five or six times a 
day just to adjust the Talks volume. Do you see why this is really inconvenient?

   

  So please please Talks dealers pass on this Use Default Audio Settings 
suggestion to the Talks developers teem until they find a way to actually 
control the Talks volume just during a call.

   

  I've to say before I finish that this Talks release is otherwise a really 
good release. I love the Talks + Call to read the time. Excellent improvement 
if you like me use a slide phone.

   

  Sorry for the long post!

   

  Cheers,

  Amro

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Hussein Patwa 

    To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:50 PM

    Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option

     

    Ah, that makes sense and I should have realised this.  Of course I was 
thinking of only the period the actual call was active rather than the 
application.  Silly me!

    Thanks,

    _______________________________________
    Have a pleasant day,

    Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

    Hussein.

    Hussein Patwa
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of DurDevil
    Sent: 03 April 2010 21:29
    To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option

    Hi 

    this is because if the phone is ringing i.e a call is coming in then the 
telephone app is activr, same when ending a call, until the phone completely 
ends the telephone app process then Talks will use the telephone app settings. 

    The telephone app volume is 5 as default if i recall correctly, this can be 
changed in the talks menu under options i.e the drop down list where you find 
register and licence info, the item is called audio settings. Change it to a 
more prefered default and if you find you need a different volume when in a 
call then you can use talks and number 5 or 6 to manipulate. Have a play in the 
audio settings options and yoo should find the  volume options you are looking 
for as there are options for in a call and outside a call.   

    Hth 

    Pete 


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    Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call 
option
    From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Date: 03/04/2010 9:08 pm

    Hi,
     
    It's the same when a call ends.  The volume doesn't switch over immediately.
    So, if at night you'll suddenly hear the volume come through really loudly
    just after you've hung up.  Hopefully you don't have any light sleepers
    nearby!
     
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    Hussein.
     
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    From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
    On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
    Sent: 02 April 2010 13:59
    To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [talks-uk] Re: An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call
    option
     
    Well folks. Could anyone then tell me if the same issue happens on your
    Nokia models? I'm interested to know what the score is with the N series
    models. My original email is below but here's a snap!
     
    "The problem is that the Volume During a Call option kicks in immediately
    once the phone starts ringing and not after the call is actually answered.
    i.e. too quickly." 
     
    If I haven't explained the problem well please let me know! :)
     
    Cheers,
    Amro
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    Subject: [talks-uk] An issue with Talks V5 and the Volume During a Call
    option
     
    Hello,
     
    Using Nokia E66.
     
    I have a problem with the new Talks V5 (Volume During a Call) option.
     
    The problem is that the Volume During a Call option kicks in immediately
    once the phone starts ringing and not after the call is actually answered.
    i.e. too quickly. And this is not how it should be I assume.
     
    With the new Talks version, when reading the caller's name by pressing soft
    key 2 while the phone is ringing, Talks now is using the (Volume During a
    Call) level rather than the normal Talks volume level i.e. the (Volume
    Outside a Call). This is not how it should be and I can think of few
    scenarios where this can cause problems.
     
    I suggest that if this issue is tricky to sort out then a workaround could
    be to add a (use default) setting to the (Volume During a Call) option. This
    setting is to tether the (Volume During a Call) setting to the (Volume
    Outside a Call) setting. In other words, the (Use Default) option I'm
    suggesting will make Talks behave like older versions in regards to volume
    level.
     
    Hope I'm making any sense? Please let me know what you think.
     
    Cheers,
    Amro


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