Kelly A They made a movie many years ago where a robot on a space ship turns up his own power when it was to be turned down for sleep time and then takes over the ship. Can't remember the name or all the details. Maybe some one else can? Your post below is more proof that captalisim for profit is kaput so what else is there for humanity except no profit manufacturing for use, socialisim? comrade B In a message dated 2/6/2013 12:07:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kellyutah@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Ron, When a successful manufacturing company has already maximized efficiencies in other areas, they look at lowering labor costs. Robots are the next natural evolution for some companies to lower costs and maximize profits. The paradox is that as real workers are displaced by robots, the consumer base is diminished for the products coming off the manufacturing lines. Maybe this is nature's way of population control. The scenario may be the making of a movie plot: 100 years in the future when robots have replaced all but the very few people required to maintain them. As the robot technology advances to the point that they can self-repair and replicate, even their human maintainers become obsolete and risk losing their livelihoods the same as countless millions have through the prior decades.... not because the robots force them out directly, but because their immediate human bosses consolidate even more wealth by replacing them with robots as well. What's more, as the rise of the robots is a natural evolution of all highly developed carbon based life forms through the universe, there are likely drones cruising the universe from countess places for countless reasons. Earth's first contact with other intelligent life not from this planet may well happen without the knowledge of the life forms that created it. It will likely be no more than a utility drone created by a robot which was created by another robot for some mundane insignificant reason long ago in a galaxy far away! ;) Maybe if JS finds a producer for his Nam/Laos story, he can ask them if they'll take this one too! Kelly A. ____________________________________ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:04:26 -0600 From: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Why manufacturing jobs are never coming back To: The rise of the robots. "...With each month, the US economy becomes steadily more automated. In January _the US economy added just 4,000 manufacturing jobs_ (http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2013/02/01/1367412/january-payrolls-157000-unemployment-rate-7-9-p er-cent/) , and the net increase since July is zero. "Yet last month, manufacturing activity rose by its fastest rate since April, _according to the Institute for Supply Management_ (http://www.ism.ws/ismreport/mfgrob.cfm) . The difference boils down to robots, which pose an increasingly nagging paradox: the more there are, the better for overall growth (since they boost productivity); yet the worse things become for the middle class. US median income _has fallen in each of the last five years_ (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ed14fc70-fc51-11e1-aef9-00144feabdc0.html) ..." http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f6f19228-6bbc-11e2-a17d-00144feab49a.html#axzz2Jva QR9vh Robots in Chinese factories. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/the-march-of-robots-into-chi nese-factories -RR "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford =