[sparkscoffee] Re: SITE Intelligence Group
- From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
- To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:03:36 -0400
You only saw the edited videos. There were earlier ones that were posted
on an Arab site,, I don't know the address, I didn't keep it.
They weren't on the SITE web site. They were different videos.
DR
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> DR,
> You crack me up. It's as if you are desperately trying to hang on to the
> false reality that has been created for you by the government and the
> mainstream media.
>
> Repeat. For the last time.
>
> I not only saw the first two videos with my own eyes but I posted a link
> to them.
>
> Had you bothered to watch them you would have seen there was no screaming,
> nor was there was there any blood squirting.
>
> The videos show the executioner (who speaks English with a British
> accent), sawing across the throat of the victims at least 6 times yet there
> is no blood. Then they switch to a shot with a head sitting on a table that
> is covered in blood that doesn't look real. All three videos show the
> executioner dressed in black like a ninja and the victims dressed in neatly
> pressed orange jump suits. The victims calmly give the a speech and don't
> resist having their head pulled back and allowing the executioner to saw
> away at it. The same sand dune backdrop that's looks more like a beach and
> there is nobody else in the videos, nor any other sound, not even the wind.
> That's is what is so funny about them. They are a complete joke. I suspect
> that whoever made them intended them to be a joke.
>
> Dream on.
>
> -RR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
> Sent: Sep 14, 2014 9:16 PM
> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: SITE Intelligence Group
>
> RR,
>
> You cannot have an anonymous Twitter account.
>
> You probably say a copy of the video, did you hear the dying man
> screaming and see the blood squirting?
>
> That only was in the first video. The first video that was hosted on one
> of the Arab jihadist web sites.
>
> The videos you saw were hosted on SITE. It's not the original video, it
> might be either edited or not.
>
> But it isn't the original.
>
> Did it have an introduction spoken in Arabic?
>
> DR
> On Sep 14, 2014 11:02 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> DR,
>> I saw the first two videos in their entirety and they were a joke. They
>> were on the SITE website.
>>
>> Quote from SITE website about the latest video which is also posted on
>> the website: "Yet, IS' return to Twitter to release the execution video of
>> Haines demonstrated a higher level of discreetness than prior releases. The
>> video was not posted under the name of any of IS’ official media groups,
>> but rather by an account under an *anonymous* name."
>>
>> Even if any of the videos are on some Arab website now, if anybody could
>> and did download the video off the SITE website and upload to YouTube then
>> any other website could do the same. It doesn't mean that ISIS posted it. I
>> could find no evidence that ISIS posted any of the videos anywhere. It
>> would make no sense whatsoever for ISIS to make videos and put their name
>> on them and then post them anonymously.
>>
>> Even if they did behead somebody, that's just the way they perform
>> executions in that part of the world. Ever see anybody get the electric
>> chair? That is far more horrific. (Or maybe I just feel that way having
>> been shocked so many times working with electrical equipment). How about
>> the French guillotine? I think they still might do it. Isn't that
>> beheading? They broadcast beheadings on TV in Saudi Arabia. We used to make
>> jokes about that. This Saturday! See Abdul's head chopped off. Be there or
>> be square! I don't see what the big deal is.
>>
>> -RR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>> Sent: Sep 14, 2014 8:18 PM
>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: SITE Intelligence Group
>>
>> The videos were posted on a site with Arabic name, I do not know Arabic
>> but it was similar to ISIS in Arabic.
>>
>> The reason they cannot be hosted for long is one thing: bandwidth. The
>> demands on the server even if robust would be huge.
>>
>> The first of the previous videos did show the beheading. But YouTube
>> quickly censored it. You either removed the beheading or it will be
>> removed from circulation.
>>
>> Youtube has an application that recognized pattern in a video file and
>> can recognize it to be a copyright work, or a video that has been reported
>> copyright.
>>
>> Right now ISIS ISIL is using Russian site like facebook.
>>
>> You will notice that SITE says the video was posted to Twitter. You are
>> aware that Twitter does not supply users with any storage space, so
>> thevideo was hosted elsewhere.
>>
>> The Twitter account may be under an assumed name, but it cannot be an
>> anonymous name.
>>
>> It is not so bad they do not tell you where they got their intelligence.
>>
>> I am sure you could purchase the name for a high dollar amount.
>>
>> But if you want to do better than they do, find the Jihadist Twitter
>> accounts and monitor them for new postings like SITE does.
>>
>> If I said before that the Arabic web site had yaken down the videos, they
>> had not. What happened was that the servers were overloaded. The file was
>> still there. I tried every method I know to get the file. The file was
>> there but it would only download a 2 bps even with resumes to try to get a
>> better priority.
>>
>> DR
>> On Sep 14, 2014 8:17 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> DR,
>>> This latest video was first posted on Twitter. "The video was not
>>> posted under the name of any of IS’ official media groups, but rather by an
>>> account under an *anonymous name*. "
>>>
>>> You can watch it on the SITE website:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.siteintelgroup.com/blog/index.php/entry/282-is-beheads-briton-david-haines,-threatens-to-execute-another-briton,-alan-henning
>>>
>>> Note that the previous videos were such bad fakes that they don't even
>>> show the beheading this time. What, did you think it did?
>>>
>>> The previous videos SITE posted they claimed they got off "a jihaddist
>>> website". but they don't say which one.
>>>
>>> I ask you. If they got them off a jihaddist website then what reason
>>> would this unknown jihaddist website have to take them down?
>>>
>>> Also, If the latest video was posted on Twitter by ISIS then why would
>>> they use an anonymous account? That makes no sense.
>>>
>>> It only makes sense because when these things are reported on the TV
>>> they NEVER mention where the videos came from. People believe it because
>>> they are brain dead and believe anything they're told.
>>>
>>> The YouTube videos are just copies that people make and post them.
>>>
>>> The reason why SITE took them down is because they had become a
>>> laughingstock.
>>>
>>> -RR
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>> Sent: Sep 14, 2014 4:09 PM
>>> To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: SITE Intelligence Group
>>>
>>> No, what I am saying is that they are originally posted to Arabic web
>>> sites, then they are posted to YouTube but YT has almost automatied the
>>> scanning that takes these videos down. The first time there was a
>>> beheading I was able to see the whole video including the beheading, the
>>> second time I missed it, most of the links that I was able to find got a
>>> "YouTube has removed this video".
>>>
>>> Here is one of the words that you can search for to get a video الدولة
>>> الإسلامية
>>>
>>> *If I were serious about it, I would track various web sites that
>>> included الدولة الإسلامية in the name. I'd compare the index.html and
>>> hyperlinks from that page with a script, if there were new content I would
>>> use wget or other program to download it before it was removed by content
>>> censors. *
>>>
>>> *netstiff and urlwatch can do the job.*
>>>
>>> *DR*
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DR,
>>>> So you are saying that they only post these videos on Arabic language
>>>> websites even though they're all in English? That makes a lot of sense. You
>>>> crack me up. Either ISIS or you has to be really dumb.
>>>>
>>>> -RR
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>>> Sent: Sep 14, 2014 1:45 PM
>>>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: SITE Intelligence Group
>>>>
>>>> I bet I could find lots if I spoke Arabian. I found ISIL by finding
>>>> the Arabic characters for it, but I forgot to bookmark it.
>>>>
>>>> ISIS has much to gain by doing this. They use terror.
>>>>
>>>> DR
>>>> On Sep 14, 2014 2:45 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DR,
>>>>> The woman is not just Jewish but a self proclaimed Zionist who lives
>>>>> in Israel and hates Iraqis. In itself that means nothing. But does it make
>>>>> any sense that this group would "find it" - find it where? - and ISIS not
>>>>> send it to the media?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention that the video is so obviously faked that it's almost
>>>>> funny. It would be hilarious if it wasn't being used as a justification to
>>>>> bomb people and go to war. It wouldn't surprise me if ISIS did terrible
>>>>> things but I can't believe they did this. It makes as much sense as Assad
>>>>> inviting UN inspectors into Syria and then gassing civilians in their
>>>>> presence. ISIS has nothing to gain by doing such a thing and everything to
>>>>> lose. They are not that stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> -RR
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>>>> Sent: Sep 14, 2014 11:48 AM
>>>>> To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] SITE Intelligence Group
>>>>>
>>>>> SITE Intelligence Group
>>>>> https://www.siteintelgroup.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> SITE is a USA based private intelligence group.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't surprise me that they found the beheading video before
>>>>> anyone else, it is their job, they specialize in terrorist intel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Started by a woman who is Jewish, so I guess that's zionist.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what? I am an Americanist.
>>>>>
>>>>> DR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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