Ron, With all due respect, what you fail to factor is the inevitable
corruption of the the union. You don't have to look any further than our own
ARA. Steinberg rigged elections FOREVER. And I CAN PROVE IT. Which means
nothing at this stage of the game. I would humbly suggest that you can make no
points using unions as examples pro or con. Just saying.. 73 JS
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From: R George <xgeorge@xxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Loyalty
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:50:07 -0700
Abraham Lincoln declared: “Labor is prior to and independent of capital.
Capital is only the fruit of labor,
and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the
superior of capital, and deserves
much the higher consideration.”
Back in the 1950s, when Republicans such as Dwight Eisenhower actually fought
for a robust and fair economy, the party promised to “clarify and
strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to
federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and
maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing
minimum wage law for public supply contracts” and to “extend the
protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is
possible and practicable.” The 1956 Republican platform pledged “to
protect more effectively the rights of labor unions” and announced that
“The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to
bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower
Administration.”
This year’s Republican platform is dismissive of the federal minimum
wage, declaring (in a stance similar to the one Trump appears to have evolved
toward) that decisions about base hourly wages “should be handled at the
state and local level.” It endorses the anti-union
“right-to-work” laws enacted by Republican governors such as
Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, and calls for taking the anti-union crusade
national with a proposal “for a national law” along
“right-to-work” lines. The 2016 GOP platform also attacks the use
of the Fair Labor Standard Act to protect workers; rips the use of Project
Labor Agreements to raise wages and improve working conditions; and proposes to
gut the 85-year-old Davis-Bacon Act, which guarantees “prevailing
wage” pay for workers on federal projects.
At campaign stops in swing states such as Ohio, Trump tries to portray himself
as a champion of workers. Yet he sends conflicting and frequently wrongheaded
signals on issues ranging from wages (going so far as to claim that he
didn’t say wages are “too high”—despite the videos of
him griping to a GOP debate audience, “Taxes too high, wages too high,
we’re not going to be able to compete against the world”) to trade
policy (while the Republican nominee says he would negotiate better deals, he
still does not seem to recognize that it is the
“race-to-the-bottom” mentality of free-trade advocates that harms
workers and communities). Trump’s decision to make fiercely anti-union
Indiana Governor Mike Pence his running mate should be read as another signal
that the Republican presidential nominee is prepared to steer federal policy
making toward the disastrous approaches of dogmatic governors such as Pence and
Wisconsin’s Walker.
Dwight Eisenhower warned, as a Republican president, about politicians
“who hold some foolish dream of spinning the clock back to days when
unorganized labor was a huddled, almost helpless mass.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-the-anti-labor-day-candidate-running-against-fair-wages-worker-rights-and-unions/
On 10/24/2016 1:40 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:A man cannot serve two masters. Who
does he owe his loyalty when it's a choice between his union, himself and his
family, and his country?
This is probably not the best example to use but one of the things Hitler had
against Jews was that the Bolsheviks organized worker's strikes during WWI
which was one of the reasons why Germany lost the war. You can't argue with
that.
Union workers are faced with a dilemna. Trump wants to make America great
again for all Americans. It should be no surprise to anybody that businessman
like Trump are not supportive of unions. That's just the way it is. Unions and
businesses compete with each other for business profits. But without businesses
there would be no unions. That in fact is exactly what has been taking place in
America for the past several decades.
The reality is that it makes no difference to the future of unions who is
elected. It will however determine the future of the country.
-RR