[sparkscoffee] Re: Already happens: Capitalism destroys human labor force and goes to the next phase

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RR
That is why we need Chinese style socialisim where patriotisim comes before 
profitism.
Joint Venturisim  is not captalisim, it is socialisim or do you want to argue 
about it?

CB
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, May 7, 2014 6:02 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Already happens: Capitalism destroys human labor 
force and goes to the next phase


50% of all Americans receive money from the government.

In 20% of American households nobody has a job. How do they survive?

Here are some of them shopping at Walmart:




-RR

-----Original Message-----

From: R George 
Sent: May 7, 2014 12:59 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Already happens: Capitalism destroys human labor 
force and goes to the next phase

              "102 million working age Americans that do not have a job right 
now."
    RG
    
    
On 5/7/2014 11:33 AM, Ron Ristad wrote:
    
    
      They said the same thing with they                invented the combine 
harvester and the steam                  engine, etc..
                    
                    Think of all the Chinese laundrymen that were displaced by 
the washing machine.
          
          -RR
              
-----Original Message-----        
        From: R George           
          Sent: May 7, 2014 9:23 AM          
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human labor force and goes to the next phase          
          
               07 May, 2014
              
              Already happens: Capitalism destroys human labor force and        
      goes to the next phase 
              
              Connecting the dots one can discover the most nightmarish         
     scenarios. Destructive capitalism's next phase is the              total 
substitution of the human labor force with robotic              machines, or in 
other words, the hyper-automatization.              There is a process taking 
place right now, and no one (or              nearly no one) knows what would 
happen after its              completion.
              
              The true picture behind unemployment
              
              From a latest article in PressTV:
              
               “Did you know that there are nearly 102 million working          
    age Americans that do not have a job right now? And 20              percent 
of all families in the United States do not have a              single member 
that is employed. So how in the world can              the government claim 
that the unemployment rate has              “dropped” to '6.3 percent'?” 
              
              “Well, it all comes down to how you define who is              
'unemployed'. For example, last month the government moved              another 
988,000 Americans into the 'not in the labor              force' category.”
              
              
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/04/361323/27-million-americans-are-unemployed/
              
              102(!) million working age Americans that do not have a           
   job right now? 20%(!) of all families in the US do not              have a 
single member that is employed? Do you find these              numbers 
exaggerated? Maybe not, if you read the following              story by the 
"eye-witness" Yanis Varoufakis.
              
              What is going on in front of our eyes?
              
              Yanis Varoufakis in his article "What if the capital of           
   future doesn't need us?", describes what he saw in              Austin-Texas 
and what that means:
              
              “While I was watching from my window in Austin-Texas, I           
   saw a big cloud of dust deep in horizon. Two days ago, I              was 
walking in that area and I was surprised by the view              of the big 
factory where bulldozers and machines were              continuously working, 
producing the dust. From the front              side of the building under 
construction it was obvious              that (fortunately) they were not 
building a new trade              center or apartment blocks. No, it was a big 
industrial              center.”
              
              “Although I didn't notice it the first time, after a few          
    seconds I realised that something was missing from this              
factory: people! Specifically, I counted three. All of              them were 
wearing helmets and protection suits and were              located in a small 
office in a space outside with a few              computers, while they were 
covered by a tent like those              used by the army. Ten bulldozers, 
three cranes and more or              less ten moving tools, at least from what 
I could see,              were moving without drivers, operators, workers       
       generally.”
              
              “When I returned to my office, I went straight to find a          
    colleague who knows well what's going on. He informed me              that 
the workplace I saw, was the new factory of Apple to              produce 
MacBook Pro. It was true that, it was constructed              through almost 
complete automatization. The materials had              been selected through a 
way with which, the automatic              machines - therefore robots 
connected to eachother through              a local wireless network (intranet) 
- to be able to              construct without human interference - even the 
hydraulic              structure of the building will be constructed by         
     plumpers-robots. A factory that under normal conditions              
should employ thousands of workers is functioning with the              
presence of less than one hundred souls.”
              
              “I asked him about the move of Apple to produce computers         
     in America, by bringing back in the US the production from              
China for the first time after decades. 'How's that?' And              the 
answer was the expected one, although quite              impressive: 'Wages are 
of no importance. The export of              productive processes from America 
to China (off-shoring)              was only an intermediate stage. The 
production has              returned to America, but not the jobs. The new 
factory of              Apple, not only is constructed without American 
workers'              sweat, but will also produce MacBook Pro through complete 
             automatization, without hiring Texans. Welcome to the New,         
     Brave World', ended with a smile, referring obviously to              the 
Brave New World of Aldous Huxley.”
              
              “When bulldozers and plumpers-robots that at this moment          
    build the new factory of Apple, will start to learn from              
eachother and cooperate inside a robotic network, even the              few 
jobs concerning the operation of these robots will              vanish. In case 
that these armies of interconnected              machine slaves belonged to 
everyone, thus if everyone had              the right to benefit from the goods 
that they produce,              then no problem. What should be done, however, 
in case              that these machine slaves, the capital of future, belong   
           (like the most of today's capital) to the very few, while            
  at the same time most of the people do not have access in              the 
goods they produce and an opportunity to work for a              (human) wage?”
              
              Source: http://www.lifo.gr/team/apopseis/45702
              
              Capital "hyperaccumulation" : Useful for the next stage
              
              Economic crises are used to destroy big competitors and           
   keep the value of money high, through capital              
"hyperaccumulation". Capital "hyperaccumulation", however,              is also 
used to fund the next stage of the destructive              capitalism which is 
hyper-automatization.
              
              How all these connected to the Greek experiment?
              
              How long a society could tolerate an unemployment rate of         
     30% - 50% without uprising that could bring an              "instability" 
to the system? When unemployment rate for              the young people has 
reached 60%? When pensions and wages              have been cut? How much the 
unemployment benefit should be              cut in order to allow people to 
survive and consume              without uprising? How many could be left 
totally helpless              without any kind of social benefit? How much the  
            mainstream media propaganda affects people in order to              
stay scared inside their homes without uprising?
              
              The new nightmarish facts in Greek experiment could be            
  proved quite useful for the big companies that              hyper-automatize 
production and seek to remove the human              labor costs.
              
              Someone has to consume
              
              The big question is: If all the production will be              
automatized (even the services sector), who will consume              the 
products? Are we going to a model that most of the              people will be 
receiving unemployment benefits just to              survive and consume?
              
              In overpopulated developing countries there are huge              
potential consumer tanks. Their consuming power will rise              and the 
complete automatization of the production there              will take decades. 
However, the suitable conditions should              be created first, in the 
aged and saturated West, in order              a limit in wages to be 
established and the expansion of              the Western social state model to 
be prevented because all              these things mean an additional cost for 
the global              economic oligarchy:
              
              
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2013/12/an-imaginary-dialogue-between-bosses.html
              
              The new model could lead to a future Dystopia beyond any          
    fantasy:
              
              “In the middle of the pyramid, a restructured class will          
    serve and secure the domination of the top. Corporate              
executives, big journalists, scientific elites,              suppression 
forces. It is characteristic that academic              research is directed on 
the basis of the profits of big              corporations. Funding is directed 
increasingly to              practical applications in areas that can bring 
huge              profits, like for example, the higher automatization of       
       production and therefore, the profit increase through the              
restriction of jobs.”
              
              “The base of the pyramid will be consisted by the                
majority of workers in global level, with restricted                wages, zero 
labor rights, and nearly zero opportunities                for activities other 
than consumption.”
              
              “However, the most horrific thing of all will be the              
  expansion of the lower social level, consisted by                millions of 
people all over the planet, which will be                left without any kind 
of help, dying in extreme poverty,                since the global economic 
elite will secure its                domination through the oversupply of labor 
force and                consumers.
              
              Unfortunately, already, the human life increasingly lose          
    value...”
              
              
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/02/a-more-simple-model-in-favor-of-1.html
              
              Are they all, so well designed?
              
              Probably not. One can imagine, more or less, what is being        
      discussed in closed rooms of economic forums and              Bilderberg 
conferences behind cameras, but that does not              mean that the 
designers of the new world order can build              everything in detail.
              
              In many cases in the past, predictions and designs of             
 various think tanks have failed because there is no              perfect 
theory that can predict everything with accuracy              and include all 
the unexpected facts.
              
              It is obvious that the subsection of the global economic          
    oligarchy in Greece, fears a possible "accident" in euro              
elections since things are not going well for the              traditional 
parties in power which support the local              capital, and this is 
depicted in the way that the              mainstream media propaganda 
culminates as we get closer to              the euro elections day.
              
              This means that, the struggle of people against the future        
      Dystopia in not futile at all ...
              
              
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/05/already-happens-capitalism-destroys.html
                              
      
"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer"
- Stevie Wonder "Superstition"
    
    
  


"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer"
- Stevie Wonder "Superstition"

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