Thanks. It sort of helps. but i'm not sure why you would want to group the notes? I mean, if you have 2 8th notes, you know that makes one beat so why group it when you can already work it out? And if they have flags, why do you need the beams as well? I am not sure I get it. Steph If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx