Nitin, First of all as Steve mentioned you need to copper balance your stack-up. The best you can do by having Ground /Power plane + Signal on S1. Now coming to your query. If Synchronous data bus is running over split, there should be a a good de-coupling between the planes (on which traces are crossing the split) to provide return path. You can do this by putting de-caps between both the planes near splits. But I see one more issue in the satck-up: S1 traces may have cross talk with S2 traces if they are overlapping each other. That should be taken care. Shelesh=20 On 4/12/05, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Nitin, Sa, Sb, S2, and Sd are suitable to high edge rate signals. P and > S1 need to be copper balanced. S1 only has return path to the extent tha= t > signals match copper on P. The best that I could recommend would be to > weave power / ground / signals on P and S1 rather than trying to place > power only on P. >=20 > Steve >=20 > At 01:41 PM 4/11/2005 -0700, Nitin Sood wrote: >=20 > >Hi Doug, > > > >The total board thickness is ~ 60 mills and with the following =3D > >dielectric > >thickness. The data bus in question is routed on S1. Power plane P is = =3D > >split. > > > >Sa > >Dielectric thickness=3D3D 4.3 > >G > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 4.5 > >Sb > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 14.3 > >P > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 4.5 > >S1 > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 13.5 > >S2 > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 4.5 > >G > >Dielectric thickness =3D3D 4.3 > >Sd > > > >I hope this helps. > > > >Thanks > >Nitin > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Doug Smith [mailto:doug@xxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 > >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:25 PM > >To: Nitin Sood > >Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] split plane > > > >Hi Nitin, > > > >Can you give us the vertical plane spacings/total board thickness?=3D20 > >This is necessary for a good answer. > > > >Doug > > > >Nitin Sood wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > >=3D20 > > > I have a synchronous data bus running at 66 MHz between FPGA and an = =3D > >=3D3D > > > ASIC. > > > The trace in question is routed on S1 while the power plane P is spli= t =3D > >=3D3D > > > up. > > > This trace traverses over the split plane in between FPGA and =3D > >ASIC.=3D3D20 > > >=3D20 > > >=3D20 > > > S > > > G > > > S > > > P > > > S1 > > > S2 > > > G > > > S3 > > >=3D20 > > > How can I measure the effect of the Split plane on the integrity of m= y =3D > >=3D3D > > > signal > > > on the board and what is the usual approach to this problem in such a > > > scenario where crossing the split plane is unavoidable.=3D3D20 > > >=3D20 > > > Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. 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